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The Zimmerman Files (Do you really wanna know?)


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I'd be reluctant to post pics of Family...... there a lot of nut jobs about who may well get a burst of nut-energy soon.

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Rumpole wrote:
I'd be reluctant to post pics of Family...... there a lot of nut jobs about who may well get a burst of nut-energy soon.



Of course, you're right! I should have thought of that myself.

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Portion of CNN interview with O'Mara


http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... e.cnn.html

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d2hfHXGUJU

It's What I Do

CNN Exclusive interview with Mark O'Mara

It's part of a 9-part interview here:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... e.cnn.html

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State Attorney Angela Corey fires information techonology director who raised concerns in Trayvon Martin case

(Corey fired the whistle-blower)


http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013 ... rector-who

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I would hope that there is more to be heard from whistle-blower... and that the sanctions against Bernie hearing will continue?

But then a gain... BAEZ was supposed to be facing sanctions after the Ant trial... but it all just went away.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:08 am 
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Good Morning

I was hoping to post Dr. Drew's transcript from last night, however it isn't posted yet.

He has had a guest on this week, I believe her name is Miss Ali or something close to that.

Anyhow....she has caused quite a todo with his other guests and callers.

Without the transcript, I will attempt to paraphrase, and what she said strike home to me.

We have endured 400 years of trauma, the govt. has paid reparation to the Jews, the Indians and the Japenese, but not us.

So there you have it folks, the black community are placing their trauma onto GZ and want him to suffer for all their suffering.

Mark Eiglash, one of the regular guests was stunned...


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The first three comments should be read.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 2412.story


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George Zimmerman jury to begin 2nd day of deliberations

SANFORD -- The jury in George Zimmerman's murder trial will begin a second day of deliberations this morning, weighing whether the neighborhood watch volunteer committed a crime almost a year and a half ago when he fatally shot Trayvon Martin.

As the jury began their discussions Friday afternoon, police and civic leaders in this Orlando suburb went on national television to plead for calm in Sanford and across the country, no matter what the verdict.

....more at link
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf ... n_jur.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:22 am 
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Rumpole wrote:
I would hope that there is more to be heard from whistle-blower... and that the sanctions against Bernie hearing will continue?

But then a gain... BAEZ was supposed to be facing sanctions after the Ant trial... but it all just went away.

The defense IT expert/attorney (name?) who testified (or proffered ) about the text messages and pic's stored in applications which hid them actually added a little confusion for me. The state IT man, Kruidbos, testified his efforts exposed gigabytes of data not shared, along with his report on it. We know of a deficient report handed over in discovery on June 4, along with another data load, nuber 3 or 4 turned over for the phone.

The defense IT expert left me under the impression he had uncovered some or all the texts and pic's (and porn) from a data source previously provided to the defense.

Also. we're left with the mystery of WHO deleted the files after allegedly transferring them (or copies) to the applications on the phone which hid them.

For the record, I do not have the time nor desire to review all the comments in the CTH threads on the daily events (trial, etc), for this is a great source to get the important information posted there. I do however review many of them on the topic specific posts there, which recently had the electronic trail as a topic. In that post, SD made a comment that grabbed my attention:

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My spidey senses tell me that Trayvon Martin’s phone was brought to the 3/16/12 meeting in Mayor Tripletts office. During the hours that Tracy and Sybrina were alone in the office post meeting – Trayvon’s phone was scrubbed and voice mails were cleared. Bonaparte’s testimony yesterday, and Bill Lee’s testimony on Monday, has given me more reason to think that’s exactly what happened.

That seems rather farfetched when you consider they'd have to have an idea what was on the phone needing to be hidden and it required TWO pass codes for the applications used to hide the data. Think about how long it took IT experts to decipher WTH was in the data after they had it all in open files or folders to review with a computer …all to be accomplished in secret with so many people keeping it a secret. If they were that corrupt, they'd just delete it, not try to save it in a folder to hide it.

The hiding it, if Trayvon did not do it, seems like something that would have happened before Cellbrite became involved, or soon after anyway. A question I believe was left UN-asked of the defense IT expert was if the applications used to hide the files revealed a date they were downloaded to the phone, since he said he did not have dates for when the files were "deleted" to the applications (hidden).

That left me wondering if MOM intentionally made sure that question was not asked, for I do not fully trust that man, he leaves me suspecting he is working with the state (or fed's) to NOT expose issues that could hurt his career.

Anyway, back to the original topic at hand… I do not believe Kruidbos has much more to tell us that would help UNLESS he also knows when the file were hidden or the applications used were downloaded. He seemed to be more knowledgeable about the total data load discrepancy and files found than any evidence which would reveal who was behind hiding the files. I'd assume (uto!) the state would keep him closer to them if he had information which could expose criminal conduct (obstruction of justice?).


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I didn't mean that Kruidbos had much (any) more factual info to impart, but rather he is still a star witness in the matter of Bernie (and others) engaged in discovery violations... easily to the level of a criminal act.

I do NOT think phone was taken to Mayor Tripletts office, nor did anybody conspire to delete/hide stuff at that point.

I do have questions about chain of custody of that phone later.... possibly somebody got at it to delete some general phone data data? but not specific embarrassing pictures etc. I think Trademark was deleting/moving/hiding his own files.

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We seem to be just about in agreement, but I'll leave open the option that somebody after 2/26/12 hid the files (v. delete entirely) because they were not certain if Cellbrite(sp?) or others in the mysterious chain of custody might have a copy of the entire data load.

Trayvon showed he was familiar with social networks, electronic communications and illegal activities which would associate him with likely sources that could have told him of the applications to hide files.

A somewhat related topic is the social network web sites (twitter...) in which everyone following the case witnessed somebody spoiling the evidence AND I never read of MOM making any effort to expose that or subpoena records for them ...and we know Mr. Pinky Ring knew about it!


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Something tells me Dershowitz won't be getting Christmas cards from Corey and the prosecution team this year either. :lol

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Dershowitz: Zimmerman Prosecutors 'Should Be Disbarred'


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/dersho ... /id/514847


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Yes Dersh is a refreshing voice against all the persecution

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In the prosecution's final argument on Friday, lawyer John Guy said Zimmerman deliberately followed Martin and "shot him because he wanted to."

Dershowitz called Guy's statement "such speculation. How does he get into the mind of Zimmerman? He hasn't cross-examined him, he hasn't met him.

"To ask the jury to believe that is to ask the jury to convict based on complete and utter speculation and that's not the way the law operates."


Hornsby commented along those line on blogtalk radio yesterday (see link back in this thread)

Hornsby says that MOM SHOULD have been objecting!! To disrupt Guy's flow anyt him on notice. Nipping it in the bud, so to speak, may have stopped Guy going further and further with it. Hornsby also points out that at the very least an Objection on the record may well be another ground for a later appeal.

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Here's what I just posted in the Anandtech thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.ph ... ount=66228

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If the "Special" prosecutors followed the law they shouldn't have brought charges against GZ. The original DA and SPD knew this so they chose to follow the law. I have no doubt a grand jury would not have indicted GZ either.

All they have/had is speculation, conjecture, innuendo, and emotion, no probable cause whatsoever...period.


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