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Thanks for link, Taurus.... expanding....

List of 29 retained jurors in the George Zimmerman trial



http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf ... n_jur.html

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http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/ba ... n_tri.html

29 jurors retained, 26 still need to be questioned
(June 14, 2013)

Lawyers interviewed seven potential jurors Friday and 41 overall since jury selection began Monday.

Six from Friday's group were asked to return Tuesday, along with 23 jurors retained earlier in the week for a total of 29 jurors retained for the second round of voir dire questioning.

Judge Debra Nelson also ordered 26 jurors who have yet to be questioned to return Monday. Lawyers want a pool of 40 before they move on to round two of juror interviews.

As court began Friday, the judge asked the defense about their last voice expert witness, so they can complete a Frye hearing regarding expert testimony about who was screaming in a 911 call made by a witness of the 2012 shooting.

The judge incidated the Frye hearing could happen one evening next week after regular jury selection. The defense's expert lives in California, so a 5 p.m. Frye hearing would mean it's 2 p.m. on the West Coast.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/zimmerma ... ons-death/


Zimmerman’s Father Blames Boston Bombings On Eric Holder’s Decision To Investigate Trayvon’s Death

Sorry about not linking it, I have not taken the time to learn how too here yet. But I found it to be new information for me and figured it might be worth sharing.

Thank you LondoJowo for posting the screenshot of what I was talking about.

K
It was good... only from your post did not know what you were referring to.

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The part highlighted shows O'Mara needs to know what the new medical examiner has to say. Normally (evidently not always in Nelson's courtroom) discovery is handled before trial, unless of course one is hoping to settle the case in a post-trial appeal ...kick the can down the road.

Here is the motion:
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/June%208%20Defendant's%20Third%20Motion%20for%20Continuance.pdf

While surprise testimony from a medical examinar could certainly be a big deal, I consider the last part MOM appears to have tossed in to be a bigger issue for MOM to use:



MOM went to all the trouble to appeal the issue, won, had an opinion filed June 3, and has since practically ignored it. Why did he not file for a continuance immediately for this issue alone?

Why is Nelson ignoring it? The DCA bi*** slapped her in their opinion, so you'd think she'd at least let the discovery issues be taken care of before counsel questions potential jurors.... this from the judge that is telling the public the trial may be over in 2 weeks.

Thanks, I am going to do some handicapping soon, or at least attempt to lol.

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I had seen that tweet with MOM & Crump. According to MOM's motion, he is working on the deposition through Crump's counsel. Maybe, if the topic they discussed related to it, they were sorting out available dates.

What days off during the trial do they have set aside for depositions?

I find it hard to believe that any waived the appeal to the opinion yet, but I guess it's possible.

Chip,

While thinking about the 5:00 you mentioned, it just struck me that Bernie may not want the jury to believe that Trayvon ever saw the gun.

If he can convince any jurors that Trayvon was never going for the gun, was never aware of it, self-defense may be a lot more difficult.

Graffiti artist Shepard Fairey's Trayvon Martin message slips into the courthouse
Jury selection continues
Author: Andrea Torres, Assignment Editor, atorres@local10.com
Published On: Jun 14 2013 11:23:37 AM EDT Updated On: Jun 14 2013 01:51:28 PM EDT

SANFORD, Fla. -Graffiti artist Shepard Fairey’s message was heard loud and clear in the silence of a Sanford, Fla. courtroom during the search of an impartial jury for the George Zimmerman trial.

On the first day of jury duty, a Seminole County teen wore one of Fairey’s trendy black caps with the “OBEY” logo known worldwide. When it was his turn to be questioned in the courtroom Thursday, the recent high-school graduate wore an "OBEY" tank top.

“I can’t help but see that you have something written on your shirt,” said defense attorney Don West, who looked puzzled in a navy blue jacket and tangerine orange tie.

Attorneys’ job during the pre-trial publicity part of the questioning is to peel away the layers of the potential jurors’ opinions and insights. They are also trained to look at what potential jurors convey in subtle ways.

“Did you choose the shirt, because of any particular message it conveys?”

“No … It’s just a clothing company,” said the boy identified as potential juror E75 to protect his identity.

“Oh! That’s the brand?” Zimmerman smiled and some in the courtroom chuckled.

It was more than just a brand. After Trayvon Martin died Feb. 26, 2012, Fairey -- whose portrait of President Barack Obama is hanging in the National Portrait Gallery in Washington, D.C. – painted a portrait of Trayvon that went viral on the web.

....more at link
http://www.local10.com/news/graffiti-ar ... index.html

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More Traybot stealth.... proves its not justice they want it's a result... a lynchin'

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If the shirt just had the logo and not the "hoodie picture" itself, chances are this kid might not have known there was any connection, or any clue who ol' Shep is or that he's connected to the brand.

Half the people who wear Che shirts have no idea who he was.

Youth are capable of great ignorance-I know because I used be one a few centuries ago.

Why be an apologist?

Yeah, right..... just a coincidence


I prefer to "think the worst" when it comes to Traybots

With George's life at stake... lets NOT give people the benefit of the doubt..... the pay-off matrix here makes that a high risk game... it's reality not a debating contest.

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Not an apologist, just one who tries to see all the various possibilities before reaching a (standing on the outside looking in) judgement.

(which used to drive them nuts in the lounge)

If you want to assume a very high probability that "X" = "Y", and want to call attention to that probability, please, go right ahead.

But I'd recommend not stating it as an indisputable fact without a little more evidence.

There's enough Olympic-class conclusion jumping on both sides of this case already.

All that said, the defense has no obligation to be absolutely sure they're right about why they don't want a particular juror.

If they think there's a risk associated with one of them, they should pull the plug.

But them doing so doesn't make their suspicions correct, that's something the truth of which is independent of their reaction.

I would categorise THAT as intellectual masturbation.

Like I say... this is a REAL LIFE at stake... not time to mess about with probabilities...

Play it safe... assume the Jerk in the tank top is a Traybot.... to hell with probabilities, to hell with seeing seeing how it MIGHT just be slipsies.

I am at a loss as to WHY you want to post an excuse for the guy.. other than just an academic exercise ..... Intellectual Masturbation.

Is there a history of Traybotism in your family?

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West: "You may want to bring a jacket next time."

West was all over his lying azz.

Once again, Nelson does nada to obvious liar.

Looking back at the replay..... in hindsight... I think I see the odd knowing look from West.. even while Bernie was going thought the motions with the Tank Top Traybot.

With a LOOK described as similar to this picture... it's a bit silly to imagine this was "just something he threw on for Court without realising"



WEST was clearly on to him with his very first words " Aren't you cold?"

Here is the replay.... If you listen to all the preceding stuff about going to school with TM's friends and use a bit of common sense..... it's a bit silly to propose an "innocent explanation" in the context of the REAL LIFE situation.

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN JURY SELECTION 6.13.13 PT. 4



The guy is a Traybot.... or else a very good Traybot Impersonator.

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