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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:25 pm 
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This all related to the Crap chart thing?

I wish it was never allowed to entered as evidence.

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2:25 p.m. ET:

“How is jealousy controlling?” asked Willmott.

“Well, if you’re dealing with someone who is jealous, what happens is they let you know in lots of ways and they don’t have to be in obvious ways… they can be in ways that -- I give you silent treatment when you come home after you spend time with friends and I don’t talk to you for awhile. Or I ask you a lot of questions and I interrogate you,” said LaViolette.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:29 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
This all related to the Crap chart thing?

I wish it was never allowed to entered as evidence.

Oh, ok - I couldn't read it well.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:29 pm 
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"Patriarchal Terrorism"

Guys flying planes into a relationship?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:30 pm 
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I can just see how many questions for this doctor all this BS is going to give way to...... :roll


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Rumpole wrote:
"Patriarchal Terrorism"

Guys flying planes into a relationship?

Funny! But what a good visual!


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This may well be all great stuff as a learned paper presented at a Wimin's conference......

But it is unlikely (IMO) to have ANYTHING to do with Travis.

At a pinch..... a lot of it may apply to Jodi... violent manipulating woman that she is.

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"Age is Power" - that's actually a good thought. (daughter dating a doctor 14 years her senior). Hmmm.


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What she's describing about how the APD operates (first order of business is to cut the woman off from her family) is perfectly correct. Yes, this is all unnecessary, but it can hopefully make some people think. (trying to find the silver lining to the wasting time sitting here? lol)


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:lol Rumpole!

2:34 p.m. ET: LaViolette further explains that victims suffering from hostage syndrome only see the situation through their abusers eyes. She calls this a "monopoly of perception."

2:32 p.m. ET: Willmott is asking LaViolette how some abuse victims can be trapped in a hostage syndrome, where they don't feel free to function in the world with other people.

2:28 p.m. ET: LaViolette is explaining the most severe type of domestic abuse. She calls this type abuse as "terrorism," and she describes it as stalking like behavior.

“When a relationship ends, most people – there usually is one person who isn’t ready to have an end. And that’s for any of us -- most of us have had relationships where they ended before we were ready to have them end… and you’re not quite ready to have an end so you might call that person just to hear their little voice on the answering machine. Or you might drive by their house or something to see if they’re there. You might show up somewhere where you think they are,” said LaViolette.


2:26 p.m. ET: LaViolette said as the abuse becomes more severe victims will become withdrawn and isolated. Every relationship is different, and it is difficult to predict how long this change can take to happen.

“[The victim] can be friendly, they can be more self-confident, they can be even gregarious, they can be the person that plans activities for friends. And then over time what happens is they become more withdrawn, they become less self-confident, they become more self-blaming, their self-esteem goes down. So you see a real change,” said LaViolette.


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Remote wrote:
What she's describing about how the APD operates (first order of business is to cut the woman off from her family) is perfectly correct. Yes, this is all unnecessary, but it can hopefully make some people think. (trying to find the silver lining to the wasting time sitting here? lol)



This really has nothing to do with Jodi and Travis. They were not a "couple". He was not her "partner." :28


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EVEN IF... at a huge stretch... hypothetically .... IF... Travis was some sort of abusive partner....


Jodi was away... in another State..... Travis had moved on to other partners..... Jodi went back to butcher him

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forensicpsy wrote:


This really has nothing to do with Jodi and Travis. They were not a "couple". He was not her "partner." :28



Hi forensicpsy :28

Quite right.

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The most dangerous time for a victim - - is when they try to leave. Often men do KILL the woman thinking...
"If I can't have you, nobody can!"
Travis tried hard to get rid of that cancer ... to GET HER OUT OF HIS LIFE... but she kept throwing herself in his face. When she finally FINALLY got the message ... she killed him!
Roles seemed to be reversed - here. Her last ACT said it all! Travis was IN an abusive relationship.


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2:44 p.m. ET: LaViolette she sees victims all the time that are worried about hurting the reputation of their abusive partner. This may support Arias' claim that she lied about killing Alexander and their kinky sexual relationship after his death to protect his reputation.

2:42 p.m. ET: LaViolette is explaining how abuse victims can become extremely isolated from the outside world, because they want the world to like their partner.



2:40 p.m. ET: Sometimes abusers will become physically violent with family pets according to the LaViolette.

2:37 p.m. ET: Abusers will threaten to kill themselves or their victims in the most severe type of domestic abuse according to LaViolette.


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forensicpsy wrote:


This really has nothing to do with Jodi and Travis. They were not a "couple". He was not her "partner." :28

Exactly! Where are they heading with all this? More smoke and mirrors but I must admit, she is actually informative and pleasant to listen to. :eek


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"Sexual Humiliation and degradation"

HERE WE GO...... cue the anal sex :lol

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2:51 p.m. ET: From our producer in the courtroom:

LaViolette's style of story telling and anecdotal evidence appears to be resonating with jurors. Even those jurors who are prolific note takers are not taking notes and are completely attentive.

2:47 p.m. ET: A "terrorist" can be abusive without ever laying a hand on someone according to LaViolette.


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Remote wrote:
Exactly! Where are they heading with all this? More smoke and mirrors but I must admit, she is actually informative and pleasant to listen to. :eek

Yes I agree.... I can see why she does go down well at conferences... even helps in counselling....

But... as a DEFENCE witness all she is there for is to try and apply this to Travis... which will be a stretch. As I have said... its more easily applied to Jodi... Big chance for her... this could be the SECOND time she almost gave evidence on behalf of a man

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