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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:40 pm 
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I just put somebody's butt in a sling over at McDaniel's blog....enjoy :HSG

http://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.c ... mment-8595



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:06 pm 
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GZLegal site does have some quaint features.... can be tricky to find some bits

Main site:
http://www.gzlegalcase.com/

Has links to most releases... but not all

We are awaiting "Reciprocal Discovery" Being posted at:

http://www.gzlegalcase.com/index.php/co ... -discovery

But at the moment it is not posted

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Articles
Reciprocal Discovery

on 12 March 2013.

This information will be posted soon.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:08 pm 
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Just a random statement here. I'm now checking RT, Diwataman's blog, the CTH and Stately McDaniel Manor trying to keep abreast of GZ developments. Of the group, McDaniel's place is one I probably won't continue to visit, because he's got 3 or 4 Trayvonistas over there, one in particular, who suck up tons of bandwidth with the same ridiculous, tired, disproven nonsense. I so enjoy having places to visit where I don't have to wade through that crap. :45


I am glad people visit other places..... I do too.

Please bring any good info back here.. a sample and a link to the site for worthwhile stuff.

And..... done sparingly.... it can be good to quote the silliness so we can all have a good laugh....



Will do. 'Course, bringing something over means I'll actually have to read it first ... :41

(I do love these smilies, Rumpole!)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:11 pm 
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I know Sling from Twitter. I actually kind of like him. He may argue points but he has never been one of the ones to throw profanity or name calling at me. I was glad to see Nettles there at The Manor. I wish she would come here, too. I tried to get her to start posting in the TL forum but she doesn't seem comfortable there.


Just FYI, they refer to Sling as a "her" over at the Manor.

Okay, I admit it ... I typically have only one good nerve to work with anyway, and a year+ out, I just have no patience for anyone still arguing an anti-Z, pro-TM viewpoint. :18


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:17 pm 
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I was just there and it's the same argument over and over again. They like to make things up as they go.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:21 pm 
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And what's truly ironic is that she accuses me of argument by repetition.

It's as if she mentally blocks the fact that the very first hurdle the State must overcome will be to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense.

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DaMacMan wrote:
I did a quick analysis on two of the recordings of DeeDee (I took the segment of "Why you following me for?" from both). The enclosed MP3 has the BDLR Interview first:
I de-noised the original recording a bit for clarity.
The second sound bite is the same as the first, but with a "bad phone" filter applied
The third part is from the Crump interview.

Since MP3 files are not allowed. I'm linking to the file on my server:
http://markhagel.isa-geek.com/~mom/mp3/ ... %20for.mp3

I believe that they are the same person - what do you all think?


OHHKAAAYY, I have to say I disagree. There is a different accent in the last one vs the other two. Listen carefully to how she says "for". In the first two, the word "for" ends with a clear use of the "r". In the last one, the "r almost disappears. Therefore the Crump girl, after listening to the BLDR Girls, I believe is a different girl.

Can you do other segments? Phrasing? How one girl will say the same idea but phrases it differently.

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The first seems to be very articulate, while the second seems to be fluent in ebonics. Two seperate people, IMO.

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And what's truly ironic is that she accuses me of argument by repetition.

It's as if she mentally blocks the fact that the very first hurdle the State must overcome will be to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense.


I could certainly be wrong because I haven't made a study of it, but I suspect that for her, it's all about the attention she's receiving. She doesn't seem to make a point and then check back in later like most of us with lives do. Based on the number of her comments and the length, she's 24/7 sitting at a computer trying to get a rise out of people. It's sad in a way, but I just don't have the time or patience for it.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:24 pm 
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I have a tough time accepting the two Dee Dee theory. Since the Crump interview was recorded and surely everyone knew the state would record theirs, it would have been far too risky to use two different females even if they sounded somewhat alike. Certainly Crump would have known the state would be recording the interview. Someone might argue that the distorted audio was an attempt to mask the voice, but the only reason to do that would be if it was already known DD1 wasn't going to be available later. That being the case they would have simply found another girl that would be available.

I think it's more likely the differences people are talking about could simply be because she was upset/stressed about being dragged to the interview or she was on something.


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JanC1955 wrote:
chipbennett wrote:
And what's truly ironic is that she accuses me of argument by repetition.

It's as if she mentally blocks the fact that the very first hurdle the State must overcome will be to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense.


I could certainly be wrong because I haven't made a study of it, but I suspect that for her, it's all about the attention she's receiving. She doesn't seem to make a point and then check back in later like most of us with lives do. Based on the number of her comments and the length, she's 24/7 sitting at a computer trying to get a rise out of people. It's sad in a way, but I just don't have the time or patience for it.

Sling invested a lot of time working on her timeline and theories. She's convinced she's worked everything out and won't give them up no matter what facts are presented. At most she'll 'tweak' it to fix any problem someone points out. If necessary just make someone else a part of the 'conspiracy' to cover up Trayvon's murder.


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Welcome to RT Puzzler :28



(I stretched avatar pic size... would look a little better if I had larger pic to work with)

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DaMacMan wrote:
I did a quick analysis on two of the recordings of DeeDee (I took the segment of "Why you following me for?" from both). The enclosed MP3 has the BDLR Interview first:
I de-noised the original recording a bit for clarity.
The second sound bite is the same as the first, but with a "bad phone" filter applied
The third part is from the Crump interview.

Since MP3 files are not allowed. I'm linking to the file on my server:
http://markhagel.isa-geek.com/~mom/mp3/ ... %20for.mp3

I believe that they are the same person - what do you all think?



I believe it is the same person, but since she is speaking to different people, and under different circumstances, she is more careful with her enunciation when speaking to BDLR. Another possibility could be that she was "under the influence" when talking to Crump on the phone, but that seems like a lot to accuse her of with no evidence to support it.

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Ah, the two DD theory. I've been in the camp that there was and is two DDs. In fact, I think I was one of the first to start talking about is a long time ago. I believe it was last spring or early summer. I just don't believe they way they say the same words come out the same. The timing, phrasing, accents placed on certain syllables are different, the way I hear them. And way back when, they had two very different illnesses, even though the interviews were only a couple of weeks apart, she couldn't remember what made her sick? Or was it, she couldn't remember her line of what made DD1 sick.

Now for me recently, it was the 16 vs 18 (now 19) age screw up. I believe that there is a 2 to 3 year age difference between the two. DD1 really was 16 soon to be 17, the same age and grade as Trayvon. How are we supposed to believe that they went to Kindergarten together when there was at least a 2 year difference in age? Again, it's not believable.

I had said that this was a tail wagging the dog story where one starts with the ending and then try to have it build to the beginning to have it make sense. Supposedly she was an unknown girl until she was interviewed by BLDR. No one was to know her identity, so because if that anyone could have been interviewed by BLDR. The Martins knew her name, but they would never say who she was. The name of W8, the one that fit alphabetically between W7, Brandi Green and W9, Christina Johnson, now had a name; which could have easily been different that DD1's.

Now on to who holds the key to the mystery, it's Matt Guttman and ABC. In order to interview her, she HAD to SIGN a RELEASE. If she was a minor, then a parent or guardian signs it. They know who DD1 is and if she is DD2, but will they tell? I don't think they can, YET.

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Ah, the two DD theory. I've been in the camp that there was and is two DDs. In fact, I think I was one of the first to start talking about is a long time ago. I believe it was last spring or early summer. I just don't believe they way they say the same words come out the same. The timing, phrasing, accents placed on certain syllables are different, the way I hear them. And way back when, they had two very different illnesses, even though the interviews were only a couple of weeks apart, she couldn't remember what made her sick? Or was it, she couldn't remember her line of what made DD1 sick.

Now for me recently, it was the 16 vs 18 (now 19) age screw up. I believe that there is a 2 to 3 year age difference between the two. DD1 really was 16 soon to be 17, the same age and grade as Trayvon. How are we supposed to believe that they went to Kindergarten together when there was at least a 2 year difference in age? Again, it's not believable.

I had said that this was a tail wagging the dog story where one starts with the ending and then try to have it build to the beginning to have it make sense. Supposedly she was an unknown girl until she was interviewed by BLDR. No one was to know her identity, so because if that anyone could have been interviewed by BLDR. The Martins knew her name, but they would never say who she was. The name of W8, the one that fit alphabetically between W7, Brandi Green and W9, Christina Johnson, now had a name; which could have easily been different that DD1's.

Now on to who holds the key to the mystery, it's Matt Guttman and ABC. In order to interview her, she HAD to SIGN a RELEASE. If she was a minor, then a parent or guardian signs it. They know who DD1 is and if she is DD2, but will they tell? I don't think they can, YET.



I disagree with the Theory of Dueling DD's, and have always considered it to be a "rabbit hole" that has distracted the discussion about Witness 8. I believe there is one, and only one DD, and that all sorts of "Red Herrings" have been tossed out to keep the media and public away from her, and away from the truth about how and when she first communicated with Tracy, Sybrina, and Ben Crump.

Was she at the wake or funeral? Who knows? I won't believe she was there (or NOT there) until I see PROOF of either alternative. A picture of her at the service, a signature on a registry, or solid documentation that she was NOT there because her whereabouts can be documented at a different location during the times of either the wake AND the funeral. Where does the controversy about her attendance spring from? It comes from the deceivers, Sybrina, Crump, and DD said she was NOT there, but a FAMILY member said she WAS there. BOTH are from the same source as far as I see, and it is a MANUFACTURED CONTROVERSY designed to distract and confuse!

The distraction is intended to draw attention away from something they fear WILL be discovered, which means it is something that CAN be discovered. Quite simply, somewhere along the line they made a MISTAKE that will allow someone to uncover the fact that DD was already in communication with the family PRIOR to 3/18. And I believe the answer lies in her PHONE RECORDS. And I am NOT talking about her CELL, I am talking about her HOME phone. I believe that either DD called Sybrina, Tracy, or Crump from her HOME phone, or one of them accidentally called HER at the home number by mistake, and they fear that her home phone records will reveal that call. This explains TWO things: Why Crump would NOT call her home number when he had audio problems on 3/19, and WHY they have resisted providing her address to the defense. Once that home phone number is revealed, the records will show that SOMEONE called that number, or was called FROM that number LONG BEFORE 3/18. Maybe even before 3/2.

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The age difference is the main reason I suspect there may be 2 DD's. Matt Guttman pointed out that she was 16. Either she and her mother lied about her age and he believed them, or he was presented with an actual 16 year old. He would have gotten signatures if she were 16, but would not have had she been 18. Surely, he checked some sort of i.d. before doing interviews. He is an arrogant little gnat, but I doubt he would have circumvented ABC's rules, as well as the rule of law, in doing an interview with a minor without obtaining permission. If she and her mother lied about her age, surely he would have done some verifying of his own before releasing his statements. But then, he didn't verify her story about the hospital, so who knows.


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Isn't it absurd that after a year, all of this remains a mystery? I mean truly absurd. I hope someone faces the consequences for this charade. They think a game of musical chairs is just fine to keep the public guessing. Do we know yet if Crump's phoney affidavit will allow the Defense to question him under oath? That is the one depo I would pay to see.








Edit Rumpole:
Jordan I moved your further question about "subscription and notification" to the thread I told you about yesterday.

How do I....... ? (post here with posting problems)
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And what's truly ironic is that she accuses me of argument by repetition.

It's as if she mentally blocks the fact that the very first hurdle the State must overcome will be to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense.


She finally admitted that she does not care, she believes GZ guilty and that is all there is to it.


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I am amazed that you have the time and stamina to respond to her (and some others, too) You know TOO MUCH, Chip and it "scares" them. Share it with truth seekers who have open minds.


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