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Deray twetting out his narrative. I'm blocked but someone posted this link which includes a "vine" that I can bring up.

https://twitter.com/deray/status/595304326194671618

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deray McKesson@deray North and Penn. The police just shot someone in Baltimore. Unreal. #BaltimoreUprising.

Their mad because Freddie Gray received no medical attention and now they're questioning why the guy left on a stretcher if he wasn't shot. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. :doh


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HERE is the "Eye Witness".. who is adamant about what SHE SAW... only she is toatally WRONG.

This is just the sort of thing that starts false Memes.. the basis of Lynch Mob reaction...

This incident might well of started another cause for riot.... if the guy had actually managed to shoot himself, or cops had (legitimatel) shot a perp running with a gun in hand

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My take on Baltimore:

Black lives are important. Black on Black civilian murder takes many more lives than by the 50% Black police force. Where is the outcry? When police try to solve murders, they run into a "no snitch" wall of silence. On the basis of released information, I believe that the police were wrong in many respects. They arrested a person whose only action after seeing them, was to run. In their custody, the police failed to care for his well being. Simply wrong!

The situation in Baltimore is similar to the Middle East and to the BDS movement here. It matters not how many Palestinians are killed by Arabs, the outrage rises only when Israelis are involved.

Yes "failed to care" but lets get real... many perps play up and feign need for medical attention.

Even if I accept cops should have done more sooner.. it's a disciplinary matter.. far far from a MURDER (or manslaughter) charge.
I am awaiting evidence.. but my feeling is that Freddie was maybe banging his own head in van? Not uncommon. We'll see. I don't see cops were negligent in that regard.. even with seat belt he could have done himself harm. The fact that Freddie died days later.. after surgery.. complicates matters. Who's to say if the medical attention in hospital was actually a contributing factor itself? With best intentions in world.. surgery itself can in effect be a cause of death. Not in sense of liability or wrongdoing.. just tricky surgery that does not always go well. The days in hospital also (unfortunately) mean that evidence within Gray's body at autopsy does not show his state immediately after he was injured. Did he swallow some drugs.. to hide evidence? Maybe massive amount? Indication of Heroin in urine (it is rumored).. but stomach contents days later is too late to gather evidence in that regard.

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Thanks for the link. I had to turn it off at "the officer shot him in the back". You know they were just smoking, drinking (I inserted this part) trying to ease their minds, doin nuffin.


Let's just hope they don't need any TP or Doritos for the night. :Gslap


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The delusional (and lying) eyewitness is named TIFFANY.. I kid you not :lol

What is it with Black false witnesses named Tiffany (or Piaget) :lol

Woman tells Fox News she saw police shoot black man in Baltimore


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Incredible Eye Witness Testimonial Lying On Camera – This Is How a Dangerous Lie Explodes In Baltimore….
Posted on May 4, 2015 by sundance

..”They Shot That Boy For No Reason !”

Earlier today the police approached a man on the street in Baltimore suspected of carrying a firearm. Before the police could reach him the man took off running. During the pursuit the suspects handgun either fell, or was dropped, as he fled. The suspects gun went off when it hit the ground. Fortunately no-one was hit by the discharge. The man was tackled by the chasing officers and then, out of an abundance of caution, transported via ambulance.

No police officer fired their weapons. No-one was shot. The only firearm discharge was from the fleeing suspect as his firearm hit the ground.

Now watch this video of how a female “eye-witness”, injected her perception of the event, and quickly reported it to the media and enraged the community. Passionate, angry, tearful and adamant about what she witnessed.

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Marilyn Mosby -VS- The Baltimore Six – The Lies, The Agenda, The Case For Recusal…
Posted on May 4, 2015 by sundance

Marilyn Mosby is the State Attorney in Baltimore Maryland at the heart of the controversy surrounding the death of Freddie Gray, and the Baltimore Six police officers she has now charged with his death.

The cited research you can read and watch below will aid in understanding how the agenda of the prosecutor has constructed a brutally biased, and most certainly false, narrative surrounding the events. (Please assure you watch the video segments to fully digest)

Our research begins by highlighting the campaign of Marilyn Mosby as she announced her intentions to run for State Attorney in June of 2013. Understanding her initial reasoning to run for office, and understanding how she was willing to lie about the substance, is critical to understanding the agenda she is willing to advocate today.

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Baltimore - Meech Tucker Cries for Mama


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Gunshot at scene of protests underscores tension in Baltimore
Baltimore Sun, Colin Campbell
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BALTIMORE — A gunshot Monday near a city intersection that saw the worst of the rioting a week ago and became the scene of frequent protests over the death of Freddie Gray underscored continuing tensions in Baltimore.

A fleeing suspect pulled out a revolver, which went off, and no officers fired their weapons, police said, denying conflicting reports from people at the scene. No one was injured, but the incident brought out a crowd of people and dozens of additional officers in riot gear. At least one person was pepper-sprayed as police tried to disperse the crowd.

The suspect was arrested for a gun violation and taken to a hospital "out of an abundance of caution," police said.

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H/T CCG at CTH for pointing to passage in above article...

While Mosby said Friday that the officers had made an illegal arrest because a knife Gray was carrying was not a "switchblade," a violation of state law, the police task force studied the knife and determined it was "spring-assisted," which does violate a Baltimore code.

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It Begins – The Knife Baltimore Prosecutor Mosby Said Wasn’t Illegal, is Actually, “illegal”….
Posted on May 5, 2015 by sundance

Watch how quickly this case begins to collapse as the ‘real evidence’ begins to come to the surface. Activist, and State Attorney, Marilyn Mosby originally said:

[…] Officer Miller and Nero then placed Mr. Gray in a seated position and substantially found a knife clipped to the inside of his pants pocket. The blade of the knife was folded into the handle. The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law. These officers then removed the knife and placed it on the sidewalk.

[…] Lt. Rice, Officer Miller and Officer Nero failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Gray’s arrest as no crime had been committed by Mr. Gray. Accordingly Lt. Rice Officer MIller and Office Nero illegally arrested Mr. Gray.

This was the statement she made when announcing the charges to the media. Essentially, an oral citation of the probable cause Mosby used to file her ‘take-my-word-for-it’ Direct Action charges. However, it looks like she was, well, stretching the truth again.

From an article last night – and note how the Baltimore Sun buries the lede deep inside their article:

[…] Meanwhile, a police investigation continues as Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby builds her case. The separate investigations have some conflicting findings.

While Mosby said Friday that the officers had made an illegal arrest because a knife Gray was carrying was not a “switchblade,” a violation of state law, the police task force studied the knife and determined it was “spring-assisted,” which does violate a Baltimore code.

The officers remain free on bail.


Important to note this “task force” is the hand-picked Baltimore City Sheriff’s Office task force previously mentioned. Mosby is being deconstructed by her own personal investigative unit.

Go figure !

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Black lives are important. Black on Black civilian murder takes many more lives than by the 50% Black police force. Where is the outcry? When police try to solve murders, they run into a "no snitch" wall of silence. On the basis of released information, I believe that the police were wrong in many respects. They arrested a person whose only action after seeing them, was to run. In their custody, the police failed to care for his well being. Simply wrong!

The situation in Baltimore is similar to the Middle East and to the BDS movement here. It matters not how many Palestinians are killed by Arabs, the outrage rises only when Israelis are involved.
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Yes "failed to care" but lets get real... many perps play up and feign need for medical attention.

Even if I accept cops should have done more sooner.. it's a disciplinary matter.. far far from a MURDER (or manslaughter) charge.
I am awaiting evidence.. but my feeling is that Freddie was maybe banging his own head in van? Not uncommon. We'll see. I don't see cops were negligent in that regard.. even with seat belt he could have done himself harm. The fact that Freddie died days later.. after surgery.. complicates matters. Who's to say if the medical attention in hospital was actually a contributing factor itself? With best intentions in world.. surgery itself can in effect be a cause of death. Not in sense of liability or wrongdoing.. just tricky surgery that does not always go well. The days in hospital also (unfortunately) mean that evidence within Gray's body at autopsy does not show his state immediately after he was injured. Did he swallow some drugs.. to hide evidence? Maybe massive amount? Indication of Heroin in urine (it is rumored).. but stomach contents days later is too late to gather evidence in that regard.

etc There is a LOT to learn


I agree. School buses have no safety belts for the children (Drivers?). Police are required to belt in their prisoners. They mostly don't because they are fearful of being spat upon or bitten by their passengers in the tiny space available. My solution is a slit in the side of the van to allow tightening a seat belt outside the van. In this case I do not see any police crime. Had Freddie been buckled in, there would not be a case. I wonder whether the defense team will bring up school buses?


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I think the seat-belt.. lack of it.. is a contrived concern. I get the impression that MOST prisoners are transported with no seat-belt. The second prisoner, Danta, says he had smooth ride with no seat-belt last leg of trip. If there had been a serious traffic accident, or even the need for an abrupt stop by the van and if Freddie had been thrown violently FORWARD as a result, hit his head, broke his neck then there may well be a claim of some sort of negligence. But that is a LOT of if's that don't seem to have happened at all. (rumor has it Freddie hit his head on a bolt at rear of van, certainly NOT partition with driver. Even if that sort of injury occurred, attributable to no seat-belt. It is still a disciplinary type thing, careless/reckless type thing... not murder/manslaughter. If it is a common and general practice to NOT use seat-belts, then it is a mistake attributable to the PD generally, rather than the individual(s) on this occasion.

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US attorney general to go to Baltimore
By Yaron Steinbuch
May 5, 2015 | 10:12am

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US Attorney General Loretta Lynch and other Justice Department officials will travel to Baltimore on Tuesday to meet city leaders, law enforcement officials, members of Congress and religious leaders, according to reports.

Lynch’s visit comes after protests over the death of Freddie Gray, who was fatally injured while in police custody, and riots that prompted the governor to mobilize the National Guard.

Her entourage will include Vanita Gupta, head of the Civil Rights Division; Ronald Davis, director of the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services; and Grande Lum, director of the Community Relations Service.

Lynch — who was sworn into her position about a week ago — has been monitoring the unrest in Baltimore that followed the death of Gray, 25, who suffered a severe spine injury.

The FBI and the Justice Department are investigating Gray’s death for potential civil rights violations. The department is expected to release results of a separate review of the police department’s use-of-force practices in coming weeks.

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Prisoner in van said Freddie Gray was ‘trying to injure himself,’ document says
By Peter Hermann April 29 at 9:10 PM

BALTIMORE — A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police document obtained by The Washington Post.

The prisoner, who is currently in jail, was separated from Gray by a metal partition and could not see him. His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant, which is sealed by the court. The Post was given the document under the condition that the prisoner not be named because the person who provided it feared for the inmate’s safety.

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H/T Sundance.....

WaPo... COP OUT!!!!

Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly described the prisoner in the van as a 38-year-old man accused of violating a protective order. This version has been corrected. The Post also has updated this story to add comments from the prisoner, 22-year-old Donta Allen, and to reflect charges filed against the police officers.

Prisoner in van heard “banging against walls.”
By Peter Hermann April 29

BALTIMORE — A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police document obtained by The Washington Post.

The prisoner was separated from Gray by a metal partition and could not see him. His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant, which is sealed by the court. The Post was given the document under the condition that the prisoner not be named because the person who provided it feared for the inmate’s safety. But the prisoner, Donta Allen, 22, later spoke to the media, including The Post, and allowed himself to be identified.

In a phone interview, Allen said he had been in the van with Gray and told police he heard “light banging.” He said the police report incorrectly characterized his statements to authorities and that he “never ever said to police that [Gray] was hurting himself,” Allen said.

Allen, who is on probation for an armed robbery conviction, declined to comment further.

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My excerpt from the original WaPo article is very brief... Sundance posted more...

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I tried to avoid this...... witness Donta Allen starting to look like a hybrid of Dorian Johnson and Rachel Jeantel :eek
Looking like there are two people? one 38 and the other 22 years old?

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EXPLOSIVE – The Curious Case Of Freddie Gray’s Paddy Wagon Companion – Baltimore Prosecutor, Marilyn Mosby, Manipulating The Media
Posted on May 2, 2015 by sundance

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On April 29th the Washington Post ran an explosive article highlighting information from a passenger who was inside the transport vehicle at the same time Freddie Gray was driven toward central booking. According to the Washington Post source: Freddie Gray was intentionally “trying to injure himself“.

On April 30th local Baltimore media outlet WBAL-TV introduced Donta Allen, a person they claimed was the passenger in the transport vehicle.

However, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON.

Our research indicates the office of Baltimore State Attorney, Marilyn Mosby, used or allowed one of her deputy State Attorneys, Janice Bledsoe (who was in charge of the investigation as assigned by Marilyn Mosby), to willfully and intentionally place a false story using Bledsoe’s lover, WBAL-TV reporter Jayne Miller, and thereby create a fictitious story to imply Donta Allen as the passenger outlined in the Washington Post story.

Yes, you read that correctly.

The full story: The Washington Post does not specifically name the passenger who heard Freddie Gray attempting to injure himself. However, they do provide details as to the identity – details we can independently confirm (emphasis mine).

....more at link
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... the-media/


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    BALTIMORE — A prisoner sharing a police transport van with Freddie Gray told investigators that he could hear Gray “banging against the walls” of the vehicle and believed that he “was intentionally trying to injure himself,” according to a police document obtained by The Washington Post.

    The prisoner, who is currently in jail, was separated from Gray by a metal partition and could not see him. His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant, which is sealed by the court. The Post was given the document under the condition that the prisoner not be named because the person who provided it feared for the inmate’s safety.

    The document, written by a Baltimore police investigator, offers the first glimpse of what might have happened inside the van. It is not clear whether any additional evidence backs up the prisoner’s version, which is just one piece of a much larger probe.

    […] Capt. Eric Kowalczyk, chief spokesman for the Baltimore Police Department, declined to comment on the affidavit, citing the ongoing investigation. The person who provided the document did so on condition of anonymity.

    […] The third stop was to put the other prisoner — a 38-year-old man accused of violating a protective order — into the van. The van was then driven six blocks to the Western District station. Gray was taken from there to a hospital, where he died April 19.

    […] The prisoner, who is in jail, could not be reached for comment. No one answered the phone at his house, and an attorney was not listed in court records.

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The Washington Post's correction problem
By DYLAN BYERS | 5/5/15 1:44 PM EDT

UPDATE: Shortly after the publication of this item, The Washington Post changed the story in question from "Prisoner in van thought Gray was ‘trying to injure himself'" to "Prisoner in van heard 'banging against walls.'” The Post also added a correction regarding Donta Allen's age and updated the article to include his comments disputing the police report. We welcome those changes. Our original item follows:

Six days ago, The Washington Post published an article headlined, "Prisoner in van thought [Freddie] Gray was ‘trying to injure himself’." The article cited a police report which said that the 38-year-old prisoner who shared a police van with the now dead Baltimore native "told investigators that he could hear Gray 'banging against the walls' of the vehicle and believed that he 'was intentionally trying to injure himself.'"

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That could very well be but Peter Hermann needs to explain because he says the statements come from an:

“affidavit is part of a search warrant seeking the seizure of the uniform worn by one of the officers involved in Gray’s arrest or transport.”

“His statement is contained in an application for a search warrant”

They should post that document otherwise it looks like their covering something up. If there is only a name and no other descriptors of the other passenger in that document then they need to explain if they went looking on their own for that name.

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H/T BobNoxious

Officer charged in Gray death contends arrest was legal
By JULIET LINDERMAN
May. 5, 2015 5:40 PM EDT

BALTIMORE (AP) — One of the Baltimore police officers who arrested Freddie Gray wants the police department and prosecutor to produce a knife that was the reason for the arrest, saying in court papers that it is an illegal weapon.

The city's top prosecutor, Marilyn Mosby, said Friday in charging the officer and five others that the knife was legal under Maryland law, meaning they had arrested Gray illegally.

The motion was filed Monday by attorneys for Officer Edward Nero in Baltimore District Court.

Nero is charged with second-degree assault, misconduct in office and false imprisonment — all charges that can only be proven if Gray was wrongly arrested, said Andy Alperstein, a Baltimore attorney who has represented police officers but is not involved in the Gray case. If the knife was illegal, "there is no case" against Nero and another officer, he said.

"If the facts were that the knife was illegal than the Gray arrest would be justified. Even if it wasn't illegal and the officers acted in good faith, it would be the same result. All charges fail," Alperstein said.

Mark Zayon, Nero's attorney, argues in his motion that the knife found in Gray's pocket — described in charging documents as "a spring assisted, one hand operated knife" — is illegal under different rules in Baltimore.

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GREAT news.
I posted just last night the legality of the knife should be a simple matter to resolve at or before the preliminary hearing. It could (should) make a nonsense of many of the charges. Next step.. the nonsense about lack of seat-belt. That is clearly a common way to transport prisoners.. hardly just a falt of these few individuals.. Blame the system and equipment. NOBODY in their right mind would get in the back of a paddy wagon with a thug/scumbag// even a misunderstood youth!

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