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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:03 am 
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Thanks Avi. ( I added a couple of links)

Things are looking up for this Ozzie Doco. Shame the damned vid promo is "unavailable" apart from the Canada link... which as things stand means the broadcast will not be available streamed. Hope some Ozzie bastard is interested in the case and records TV broadcast... and ups it to Youtube?

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The psych report :Q7


Forensic Psychological report by Johnathon Geoffrey Scholtz (pdf 30 pages)
http://www.nickvanderleek.com/2014/07/s ... ensic.html


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:34 am 
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Thanks aavi... so did Judge change ruling.... or is this a "pirate copy"?
Just to be safe I have downloaded a copy :cool

I will put link in "Reference thread" as well

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I have let Channel 7 "Sunday" show know the official "Random Topics" view on the blocked video.... :cool

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We might just see how ludicrous the State Time Line is.

With Herri Nil committed to gun shots starting just after 3:17 (with OP on stumps) lets see how impossible it would have been to then do all that had to be done by the time OP was seen downstairs by Stander and daughter at 3:22.

I am sure that the "Presumption of Guilt" crowd will be deying things like billy-o.. but at least a minimum few things HAD to have taken place after the shots... and just those things are impossible to achieve.. blowing Nil's timeline away... in fact blowing his entire case away. Leaving no alternative but to accept that the shots were the FIRST set of bangs that Stipps reported. ALL the screams heard by all 4 witnesses (2 couples) came AFTER the time of the first set of bangs and so were NOT Reeva screaming.

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Show on NOW!! But I have no way of viewing it.
Comments seem to be down on it for sensationalizing the case... It seems there are some crime scene shots, including Reeva's body...


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For some time vote has been 50/50

Caution: Judging by tweets most viewers no NOTHING about the case.

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True Gossip Forum Posters don't like it... so it's probably OK :)

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Permission not given to Channel 7 to broadcast footage - Pistorius's legal team


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Defence Statement.......


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MEDIA STATEMENT IN RELATION TO LEAKED FOOTAGE OF OSCAR PISTORIUS


Video footage aired by Australian broadcaster

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Brian Webber, Ramsay Webber Inc.

06 July 2014

In October 2013, the Defence Team engaged the services of The Evidence Room, A US-based company specialising in forensic animation.

The company was engaged to visually map the events on the night of the accident. As part of this process, certain video footage was filmed. The “visual mapping” was for trial preparation only and was not intended to be used for any other purpose.

It has now emerged that an Australian broadcaster has obtained some of this footage from The Evidence Room and has just gone to air with it.

We wish to make it very clear that the material that has been aired was obtained illegally and in breach of the non-disclosure agreement with The Evidence Room. Its usage also constitutes a breach of privilege as this material was produced for trial purposes on the instructions of a commissioner, and the ownership of the copyright vests in the commissioner. No permission for the disclosure thereof has been given.

For the family, the airing of this footage constitutes a staggering breach of trust and an invasion of the family’s privacy.

It has come to our attention that Channel 7 purchased this footage unlawfully. In addition, during our engagement with Channel 7, we received an undertaking that they would not air any of the material before the end of the trial.

Whilst we cannot imagine how any of the footage would not support Oscar’s version, we will only be in a position to comment further once we have had the opportunity to study what has been aired.

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The elusive PROMO Vid at least is now on YT.....


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Pistorius lawyers slam 'unlawful' broadcast of Steenkamp shooting re-enactment
By Aislinn Laing, Johannesburg and Jonathan Pearlman in Sydney
6:36PM BST 06 Jul 2014

Lawyers for Oscar Pistorius, the Paralympic athlete accused of murdering his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, have slammed the “unlawful” leaking of a video which shows the athlete re-enacting the events of February 14 last year.

The extraordinary footage, which was aired on Sunday by Australia’s Channel Seven, shows the athlete wearing a Nike vest and Lycra shorts running without his prosthetic legs with his arm outstretched and fist clenched as if holding a gun.

In another scene, he acts out how he broke down the lavatory door and pulled Steenkamp out of the cubicle after shooting at her four times through the door.

The brunette in the clip is understood to be his sister, Aimee, and the footage was filmed at his uncle Arnold’s house where he has been living since the shooting.

During the clips, the athlete is heard screaming “get the f*** out of my house” at what he says he believed was an intruder hiding in his lavatory, and “Reeva, call the police”. He is also to later shout: “Please help, please help me”.

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This enca report has more detail....

Evidence Room silent on leaked Pistorius footage


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:32 pm 
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I see the chartering masses are really working "Cognitive Dissonance" to reclassify this Doco as a WIN for Herri Nil :lol

Poll results are 50/50...... but a few more say guilty on fb page (apparently) :stamp

Really?

A poll, especially one taken of largely uninformed public proves NOTHING conclusive about the case.. but it does indicate at least the evidence viewed as giving rise to DOUBT... Reasonable doubt is all the defense require. 50/50 is a whole truck-load of doubt. :cool

As an aside.
I see mention from some "Justice-seeking" posters that they voted multiple times to push GUILTY (one mentioned 200 times)
This is Standard Practice for the Lynch Mob members. They are not interested in what is correct (based on evidence) they just want the Guilty verdict. This poll would need to show 99%+ to support their cause
They can not even comprehend that they are clamoring for GUILTY despite any evidence and not because of it! :doh

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And STILL people miss the point about "the screams" and human perception :doh

Th point is NOT whether OP "screams like a woman". The point is whether two sets of witnesses (one set too far away to make a valid assessment) could (wrongly) PERCEIVE OP's screams as being from a woman.

There is a HUGE difference, in those two ways of assessing the "woman's screams" reported by ear witnesses in this case.

Nobody is claiming that OP (even under stress) does a perfect impersonation of a woman, or even a bad impersonation of a woman. The issue of perception is with the listener... the person(s) doing the perceiving. As I have already said... it is NOT unusual for human perception to be "Wrong". Any optical illusion illustrates that. Even when people KNOW they are wrong in what they perceive in an illusion.. they STILL can not overcome the mis-perception. It is the way human perception works. An "illusion" perceived by ONE person may well be perceived the same way by ALL people. Reality is not determined by a vote. It is possible for Everybody to be mistaken. It is NOT just about the information viewed (heard) in an absolute, measurable sense. It is not just about what you might read on a scientific instrument. Human perception is about evaluating information in context based on past experience and expectations etc It is LEARNED! In the OP example, a person hearing a high pitched wail at 3:00am might well assume that to be female.

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Wow what a striking turn around in public perception after the airing of the video. Prior to visuals confirming what Oscar had testified to, it would be generous to say 20% believed him to be innocent. Now it's almost half. And we know if the poll was able to be skewed with Oscar haters, it was.

For the life of me, I don't understand the visceral hatred for Pistorius. It started before the trial even began and before one piece of evidence was presented. Is it that hard for freewheelers to understand that you have to start with the presumption of innocence and even view all evidence in that light? Once all impartially evaluated reasons of beyond doubt that a plausible explanation--other than what is offered by the defense--is systematically eliminated, then, you conclude with rationale of guilt. Everybody has it ass backwards.

To watch the contortions the dim-a-phobes and Nelnuts will go through to make even the slightest morsel of evidence that doesn't conform to their hell-bent vendetta against Oscar, is almost the stuff for a scientific study. One would think it was somebody from their family he shot.

Did it ever occur to these Oscar version of al Quida that if Pistorius testified to anything that was knowingly false and Roux knew it, that he would be suborning perjury by allowing him to state it on the stand? Did they ever stop to think that Roux commissioned this video re-enactment and that he would know everything that was determined from it? For him to knowingly allow Pistorius to testify that he was on his prosthesis when he dragged Reeva from the toilet when he knew he was on his stumps, he could lose his law license. Do they really think Roux would put his career on the line for Oscar and allow him to lie on the stand? :wall

Studies show that EYEWITNESSES are wrong over 30% of the time. Do we even have EYE witnesses here? We have EAR witness that are hearing sounds that two prominent adversarial lawyers practicing in South Africa testing to see what could be heard over those distances, found weren't even audible. Let alone indemnifying what any of them could discern or what they could actually be hearing. They had to move to a distance of only 50 meters away before they could hear anything. Even Mrs Van Der Merwe was 80 meters away and she was the closest one that the State has to rely on. It's a sham, if not a travesty to put any credence in this pathetically weak hope of the prosecution. Yet, this all the State has.

God I hope that the 50% who still think he shot Reeva knowing that he was aiming at her behind that door, p-l-ease get a doctor's alibi to excuse you from jury duty if you ever get a summons. You don't understand evidence and our prisons are full enough already let alone sending not guilty defendants who are getting railroaded like this one, to cram in one more.


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Some anecdotal "evidence" I have thought about sharing for a while....

One of my 3 cats (Ivor) is an amputee.... a tripod... had a damaged front leg amputated when he was about 1 year old (12+ years ago now). Like OP, Ivor has "overcome his disability".. he roams his outdoor territory doing all the things any other male cat does... runs, hunts, climbs, jumps, sleeps, and fights other cats who venture onto his patch. With his humans he is VERY affectionate as a lap cat or lying next to you he is trusting and tolerant of any amount of petting. But....... he obviously also suffers from GAD. When he is lying on the floor he is paranoid if anybody moves vaguely in his direction.. even from some distance away. I imagine he feels very vulnerable.. it does take him longer than normal to rouse and get on his feet. He is easily startled and panicked by noises. I write this having just witnessed Ivor go from completely relaxed lying in front of a heater (typical cat).. to running off in a panic as I got up to go into the kitchen. He was facing away as I (quietly) got up making a point of not doing anything suddenly. He clearly showed a "Startled Reflex" and took off out of the room (flight). Thank heavens he does not own a gun.. the bastard would have shot me!! (fight) :slap

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