Hi Hope I am about to hop off to bed. I agree that people need to be held responsible for their actions. I question those folks that claim to have tried to get him help (or claimed to have addressed issues with him) as these are the same people that were happy to be on the gravy train that was "The Bladerunner" and are only talking about how (curious timing) that they tried to help Oscar with his maladaptation behavior only after the fact of Reeves death. Perhaps some did try to say "hey Oscar relax" but none took action,, no one said lets rethink the washing machine incident, let's talk your quick dew on your gun. At least not to a significant degree that would seem putting concern for Oscar or others, above their self interest at being attached to the face of SA.

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I am sure that this panel will find that OP has psychological/psychiatric "issues".....

Psychiatrists/psychologists are "in the business" of finding underlying psychological causes and reasons for behaviour... they can ALWAYS find something, but the perceived seriousness can vary. As far as "assessment" goes there are many many psych labels that can be applied to an individual (posters are right into that), most have negative connotations as psych labels of personality, but each individual is more than a single "label" and it is naive and simplistic (to say the least) to apply a label (based on little evidence) and then regard that as defining the person. Also.... named "syndromes", mental disorders etc abound. I am sure there are many that can be applied to OP. Some sort of "anxiety" disorder is obvious in OP. GAD is probably as good a label as any, though Psychiatrists can tend to have their own "pet" disorder labels... there are probably MANY under the broad group of "anxiety disorders"... they may come up with any one of those.

All very "important stuff" when it comes to assessment and writing a report but (as an aside), not sufficient when it comes to any treatment or therapy. Individual differences tend to confound psych labels. Psych labels may be handy things to write on the cover of a patients clinical notes, or to include in a report, but outside the "barking mad" group, patient individual differences prevail.

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Tonight on 48 Hours



http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/sneak-peek-oscar-pistorius-shots-in-the-dark/


Looks like it is going to be sensationalized propaganda but it is possible that there will be a modicum of insight to be gained. I personally can't stand the show as I think it always has an agenda but I am going to watch it to see the general consensus of how the case is likely being spun by most media outlets here in the Goose Stepping US MSM. In fairness I have never watched more than 5 minutes of 48 hours and I haven't even done that in years.

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Thanks for the link Carm..

I WONT be holding my breath waiting for it to give me any answers
(I will need to find it on YT .. or posted at CBS)

If I watch it I will be on the edge of my seat waiting for glaring inaccuracies in the case details, and uninformed comments and "analysis" from the talking heads. Just the few seconds of Mark O'Mara left me with a desire to "bitch-slap" him

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I may try to stay up and watch it but. . . the hero's dramatic fall from grace. Sad

I'll watch it.

I don't know who Mike O'Mara is.

Even the headline "Shots in the Dark"

Good gravy.

Too bad we are not all in the same time zone as we could have a nip at each blatant falsehood that is presented as a fact.

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Mark O'Mara was GZ's Head Lawyer.... now a TV Legal Analyst/talking head

In the few seconds he was shown in the OP CBS promo.. he was trying to say "one shot would be OK... 4 shots is not" which is DAFT.

Please feel free to post your comments as the show is on... Carm and others

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Well there you go in the Mark O'Mara I'm just not a crime watcher.

The one bullet rather than 4 being a measure is an ignorant opinion.


I had better check. I believe it is on ay 9pm here.

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K

I used to "follow" Nancy Grace show every night during Ant case... just by reading "live comments" thread at a well known forum. I got the gist of it from that... watched or read later for some bits. I took on the task every day of CORRECTING all that was wrongly stated by NG... there were some classics

I will see if there are any comments being posted elsewhere on the OP CBS thing.... add here any "Pearls of Wisdom" that I see

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I never watched any of the Anthony case and Nancy Grace well I don't watch her or any of the cronies, I value my sanity too much

Speaking of comments there are only 3 on the 48 link and all three make me happy for bench trials. YIKES!

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Carm... you made me have to look!

I see what you mean... enough to make one say "Good Gravy!!"

I already had concerns about Juries.... after-trial interviews with Jurors make me cringe... and I have even seen posters at True Gossip forums announcing their attendance as jurors

As I have already posted... I have "high hopes" for this "Bench Decision" in SA. I am NOT impressed with some of the court procedures and Lawyer shenanigans seen in the OP trial... but that may well not matter so much with a decision made by a Judge rather than a panel of Jurors susceptible to court room antics? Here's hoping anyway.

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I am happy to see a bench trial in such an emotionally charged and "public" trial.

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But..... as a general procedure it then comes down to WHICH Judge.... they can be "variable" to say the least... and Public/political pressure etc.

She's a hard row to hoe finding the perfect Judicial System , but!
(That comment may make more sense to any NZ readers, especially Speight’s Beer drinkers)

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Yes and Masipa has a long history of well reasoned conservative judicial decisions.

I do believe that her assessors are going to be strongly in the innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt camp. The woman was a defense attorney who defended rapists and murderers, the man is a freshly minted academic who will likely come from a theoretical philosophical school of thought where he tries to see outside the box that is being demanded by Nel and Nellites. the law demands that they view the evidence in a light most favorable to a defendant and I trust that they will do just that. Logic and Reason v Emotion an hysteria, l hope the proper side wins out.

I also think that the academic is going to be sharply sensitive to the extreme situation which was a perfect storm of Oscar's physical disability, his extreme emotions and a noise in the night.

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Looks like they are winding things up for a sucker punch.

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My condensed version, Oscar was swell, he didn’t have lower legs but his mum was so dandy that Oscar didn’t even know he was legless.

Oscar was swell then he won a few races and became “I am Oscar Pistorius” so Oscar wasn’t so swell.

Boy met girl. Oscar and Reeva were of equal celebrity status, ( but they did manage to poke themselves in the eye on this one when they showed Reeva on their first date were instead of introducing herself she said, “I am Oscar’s date.”) Very sad to see her so full of life and excitement when one knows she is no longer here.

Nutter statements about 4 shots, nutter statements about Reeva’s star status, nutter statements about small stuff that just muddies the water (wish I had tapped some stuff down).

An attorney did agree with me that Oscar sounded like a woman in the courtroom.


GAD came up.

Has any one addressed the weight that Oscar’s application for 5 or 6 more guns might mean to his growing anxiety?

Looks like about 10 minutes to go.

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For some reason they are drawing parallels between Oscar and OJ. Just to further sensationalize it? Because they were both Sports figures? I don’t know.


Anyhow Alan Deshowitz said Oscar’s defense is that every white person is in danger in SA, from black people, because black people are going to break into their homes. He said Oscar can’t state that because the judge is black. But that is Oscars defense .

Shaking my head at the insanity of a guy playing the race card 20 years after the fact in a totally unrelated case. Truly bizarre.

Shapiro who I find relentlessly disarming said in one snippet that he did not think Oscar would be going home. Take that for what it is worth, stripped down of all the words that surrounded it, other than he said Oscar made inconsistent statements.

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Sorry, I just keep wracking my head trying to figure out what I just watched , it was simply an hour of nothing, that led into a senseless comparison of OJ and Oscar. Maybe they are going to do an OJ segment and this was to gin up interest in the OJ anniversary. There is a reason I don't watch crap like this, lesson learned

What a load of nonsense.

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Thanks Carm.... it is noted that you "Took one for the RT Team"



Oh Noes!!!!

OP is GUILTY of ..... INCONSISTENT STATEMENTS!!! You say


That is EXACTLY the same as George Zimmerman, then. These BASTARDS!!!

They need to be locked up, brutalised and raped and then murdered!!!

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It was a very odd regurgitating of some opinions and basic facts, dispersed with menacing music and a squinty eyed Oscar while Reeva was subtly sainted.

Funny manipulative "mistakes or sloppy reporting" as in they interviewed Gina who was introduced as Reeva's roommate yet they failed to mention that "Gina and Reeva' actually lived in Gina's bedroom at her parents house. Seems a little different star power or success than Oscar who lived in his own large home, had a home Italy, race horses, expensive everything. Curious.

It is a horrific tragedy that Oscar killed Reeeva but I don't understand how pretending that she was in equal celebrity with Oscar makes any sense.

It reminded me of the old saying "a lie begins with a single word."

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