PART 8 of 10




No sound test is going to be able to replicate exactly how he sounded that night. Adrenaline can't be called on at will. It takes an extraordinary event to trigger this phenomenon and it can't be recreated artificially. There are examples of frail women lifting a 2,500 pound car to free a loved one being crushed under it. They could no more duplicate that than Pistorius will be able to duplicate his screaming that night. Not in a million years.

But so long as Pistorius is capable of demonstrating that he can scream in a voice abnormally higher pitched than the typical male voice (which I believe he can, and I expect sound tests will prove it) this clearly explains why the Stipps and Burgers were hearing perceptibly different near-concurrent voices--one thought to be a woman--over such long distances. Burger was literally almost 3 blocks away! That distance played havoc with what they heard. I'm expecting defense witnesses who lived right next door will completely contradict both State witnesses. It couldn't have been Reeva !

Once you realize and accept that the bang sounds at 3:17 was indeed the cricket bat, you know that Reeva had already been shot. It was virtually impossible for Reeva to scream--certainly after the four gunshots as claimed by Mrs Burger. She's in la la land. No matter how certain you are that she's accurate, that alone impeaches her testimony. The screaming and crying heard was Oscar vacillating between the two voices seeing the aftermath of what he had done and trying to process a sensory avalanche of rapid-fire thoughts of what he did and what he could do now to try to help her.

PART 9 of 10




The sheer VOLUME of coincidences that would have to all fall perfectly into place for the events not to be as Pistorius claims, would be the same type odds you'd have to win the Mega-Millions lottery. I could fill a legal pad with coincidences. Coincidences that he couldn't possibly have forseen or controlled. He gave a statement at his bail hearing prior to even knowing what the evidence would be, or who the witnesses would be, or what they would say, or what the photos would show. He had no idea the police would mess up royally. Or what might be on Reeva's phone.

He didn't have to volunteer any information whatsoever at a bail hearing. He could have just said he's not guilty. Most everybody forgets this. Even with the additions in his statement at the start of the trial, the fundamental basics of his account has never changed. He could have taken hours the morning of the killing to thoroughly think through a cover up story before notifying anybody. Nobody would have come over that entire day or perhaps not responded at all. Yet he was on the phone two minutes after even the State says he killed her. Followed up almost immediately with a call to security--which by the way, Botha reversed in the bail hearing and Baba tried to do again in his testimony during the trial. Security didn't call him first, he called them. He was the one who called and it was shown by phone records. Another clear lie the prosecution got caught at.

But even the bail hearing judge was impressed at how specific he was, and how adamant he was about giving such a detailed statement when he didn't have to. What he did was probably totally against his attorney's advice. You have to remember, his statement was not written by him. It was written by his attorneys. Even though he signed it, he is not a legal expert to foresee all the nuances of every single word and syllable that will be micro analyzed and pulled apart line by line by the proscecution to convict him through any means possible. It's not like he's been in trials every day of his life. In fact he has no criminal record at all.

If you've just committed a murder, you don't give the prosecution a road map to help them send you to prison for life. But he had no reluctance to state what happened and couldn't even be restrained from it. Now he had to either be a world class imbecile or he was telling the truth. And anybody who followed the bail hearing knows the case against him had already started falling apart in the bail hearing.

Botha was virtually shredded by Roux and the prosecution had to backtrack repeatedly. They'd even contended that he fired the shots while standing in front of the sinks and that he was wearing his prosthetics. Wrong! Way wrong.

So having to admit they were wrong about wearing his legs when he fired at the door, they also insist now he must have been breaking the toilet door with the cricket bat while on his stumps too ...oh please. It just gets more desperate by the day.

PART 10 of 10



The case for premeditated murder of Reeva falls apart on so many levels, it's almost sophomoric. Plus the courtroom charade being perpetrated in the guise of a search for the truth, is almost the equivalent of what you would have seen watching a snake oil salesman selling cure-all tonic from the back of a covered wagon.

I find Nel to be an arrogant self adulating all around POS. He plays to the camera just like that prick Ito did in the Simpson trial. His mannerisms with his foot on the chair are more like an Andrew Dice Clay than a principled prosecutor representing the solemnity of a capital case in a South African Court. And he has the balls to say Oscar is tailoring his evidence? That almost brings bile to my mouth. There is corruption, incompetence, prevarication and outright attempted evidence fixing by the PROSECUTION in this farce, not by Oscar Pistorius.

I would make a high wager bet if you:

Gave Pistorius a polygraph test, he would pass it.

Give him a voice stress analysis test, he would pass it.

Put him under hypnotic regression by the leading expert in the world. You would find he would rather have been behind that door himself , than Reeva.

But then maybe all we have to do is look at the undisputed evidence that Reeva had just a TEASPOON of urine in her bladder when the entire defense hinges on the fact that she had just slipped to the bathroom. Look at the damn testimony of all the witnesses, the directly conflicting accounts, the mind boggling handling of the crime scene, the perjury by a top police official and acknowledged by the prosecution's lead detective.

The cell phones show nothing remotely incriminating--not on his, not on hers. The State's own blood expert says that Oscar's explanation is the most probable for everything observed in the police investigation. Look at Oscar's proven state of always being on almost paranormal levels of high alert in his home as witnessed by others, with his first instinct on every occasion to grab his gun. Look at his actions and emotional state right after the shooting observed by everybody.

Pistorius had no clue a doctor was going to be coming through the door mere moments after he carried her downstairs. What if Dr. Stipp had been able to resucitate her just long enough for her to say Oscar murdered me in her last few dying breaths? What then? We don't know how long she was actually dead. It was the paramedic who told him she'd passed. The fact is, Oscar was yelling at Stipp to get back in the house and keep trying to do something to help Reeva when he went outside because he felt he wasn't doing enough.

Look at the prior almost sickening exchange of puppy-love emails, texts and messages every few minutes between him and Reeva for months shown in court, of which we saw only a fraction. Look at the fact no other female came forward to the prosecution to tell of any kind of abuse ever by Oscar. Look at the fact Reeva brings him a Valentine's gift that very day and purposely texts her family that very night that she's staying at Oscars.

Then add in the amazing coincidence that once before Reeva, along with her mother, had hidden in a bedroom while armed intruders were trying to break down the door where they were, and hiding behind the locked door was the only thing that allowed them to survive.

Throw in just a little common sense to put that all together, in addition to all the other things I pointed out, and we shouldn't NEED anything else.

And by the way Nel--or should I say Mr. wise ass-- if you want to see somebody who makes mistakes, look back at videos of YOU talking and see how many times you need to do the correcting-- of yourself ! You see...you see....you see....you see.... Yeah. Res ipsa loquitur.

Shortly before that night, this is a woman who sends Oscar a text saying that when they get their new house, that he shouldn't worry about his finances being able to pay for it. She tells him if he doesn't make enough money to be able to pay for and she can't make enough money either to help him, then they will both run away to a small European country and live on the beach. This is a woman who wanted to leave him? Or this is a woman Oscar wanted to kill? Give me a break. It's pure vindictive prosecution obsessed wishing and hoping bullshit. I am emphatically becoming more and more convinced that Oscar had no more intent to kill Reeva that night than I intend some day to spend an afternoon on the sun.

Yet irrespective of all my self analysis, the trial is not concluded. And despite my increasingly more steadfast belief in my position, I'm still willing to admit I was wrong should a bomshell produce that Perry Mason moment that sends shock through the courtroom and unmistakeably shows that Oscar Pistorius intentionally gunned down Reeva Steenkamp Valentines Day night of 2013. If he did, life imprisonment isn't even long enough.

But as of right now, with the standard being reasonable doubt, you could talk to me until Christmas of 2097 and you couldn't convince me that Pistorius chased Reeva into that toilet and blew her away with full knowledge and purposeful intent to do it.

Maybe not even until Christmas 2098.

It's a total trumped up Hairy Nell combination wet dream and fantasy.

Wow!!

Thanks aavi.

That is a fantastic outline.... pretty much spot on.

I imagine it took you a while? It would take me an age just with the typing!!

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If you only knew how much I hate to write--ughh, I labor over words and just hate writing.

I thought of another thing too though that I don't think I've seen anybody say hmmmmm.

His gun was still in the firing position when they found it. I think it was ready to fire--all that was necessary was to pull the trigger.

He must have been carrying it that way back and forth into the bedroom. But the notable thing is, it was leftthat way--still ready to fire, when they found it on the shower mat.

That's not somebody who did a "controlled' shooting, put the gun on safe mode after he'd accomplished the mission of killing his girlfriend. That's a guy in sheer hysterical panic. He didn't care about anything except breaking that toilet door down as quick as he could.

Possibly even stepping on that gun, could have caused it to fire. No way that was a deliberate shooting.

Great post aavi!

It really puts things in perspective when we see most of the relevant detail together as in your post.

I still find it incredible that many people seem to believe that the prosecution's version is more likely.

Then again, it's quite easy to ignore anything logical and create a fanciful story based on a fictitious row. I must have seen about 50 different possibilities regarding the state's theory, everything from Oscar being in cahoots with the Standers to the rope and black bags being used to prepare the body for removal from the scene. Oh, not forgetting the fact that most of the incriminating evidence hasn't been disclosed to anybody, it's just being left for Judge Masipa to peruse at her leisure, allegedly

The mind boggles

I think this Judge is perusing at her leisure. Indeed, even if she is not, I would not be at all surprised if she has already tentatively reached her decision depending next on what the defense come up with.

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H/T Minor4th

Van Staden's timeline according to photo metadata and testimony:

PISTORIUS REFERENCE - Documents, Photos etc (NO DISCUSSION)
viewtopic.php?f=105&t=1211&start=20#p71995

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aavi....

One of my favourite lines..... great image evoked....

"Just going down the steps on his stumps, he would end up falling down the stairs like a slinky"

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Here is Oscar staring in an Ozzie music video... GREAT song, always thought "Crap Video".

I now view it with new admiration

Powderfinger - My Happiness

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lol. A picture is worth a thousand words.

The ones in the prosecution's case a thousand words of nothing.

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The trial is due to start again.. tonight 3:30AM EDST

Barry Roux rides again!!




I will stick to having this thread open for ALL discussion... about the trial happenings as well as any general discussion.

I will update the (LOCKED) Trial thread. There are links there to live streaming and updates

PISTORIUS TRIAL - Streaming Links and Updates
viewtopic.php?f=105&t=1210&p=74419#p74419

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Pistorius team to call ballistics expert - report
2014-05-04 12:12

Pretoria - All eyes will once again be on Oscar Pistorius when he returns to the North Gauteng High Court for the resumption of his murder trial on Monday.

According to the Sunday Independent, the defence is this week expected to call its ballistics expert to the stand to hopefully bring some credibility to its case.

The Sunday Times reported that Pistorius’ legal team will be hoping to fight back after prosecutor Gerrie Nel annihilated Pistorius and forensic expert Roger Dixon in cross-examination.

The newspaper also predicts a tough few days ahead for Pistorius.

According to the newspaper, Tom Wolmarans, a ballistics expert, is expected to be one of the first witnesses to be called this week.

Wolmarans has been present in court every day since the trial started and his testimony is expected to counter aspects of the prosecution’s case.

Wolmarans is part of Pistorius’ “dream team”.

...more at link
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Polit ... t-20140504

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Just a thought, but there seems to have been no comitting to memory of the emergency number. Over here and, in the States everyone knows the emergency number.

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Hi Wroughead..

I get the impression that there are several (private) services....not sure if there is a simple EMERGENCY number like 911 (111 in NZ)

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I think you're right Rumpy - nevertheless, too late now and it wouldn't have done Reeva any good, I don't think, but whether there are private services or not - someone should have an emergency number in their home.

I'm having a kitchen built this week, so I'm in my office out of the way, but may be disturbed back and forth, and may even miss bits of the trial but I can catch up.

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Oh we have a break - I have soooo missed these Nel breaks.

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It is lack of preparation.... seems the 2 week vacation was not enough?

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If they were trying to stem the flow of blood - Reeva's heart was still beating, she was still alive we heard before the 2 week recess that she died in the hallway. Unfortunately for Reeva, in his panicked state, picking her up and running downstairs, he may well have hastened her death.

I can see how he must have been frantic for help, imagine being in that situation!

At this stage in the trial, I am still convinced this was nothing more than an horrendous accident.

The SA police do not have a good track record. OP is famous and that is why he's on trial.

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