Pistorius throws up in the dock as court is ACCIDENTALLY shown photos of Reeva Steenkamp
By Simon Tomlinson
PUBLISHED: 09:42 GMT, 13 March 2014 | UPDATED: 13:52 GMT, 13 March 2014

Oscar Pistorius threw up in the dock today after horrific images of his girlfriend's blood-splattered body were accidentally shown in court.

Gasps filled the courtroom when close-up pictures were displayed on a screen on two occasions while the operator was scrolling through trying to find other images.
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The court was then shown further graphic images of the blood stains found on the floors, walls, stairs and chairs in the athlete's house.

The images were described by Schoombie van Rensburg, a former police colonel who was one of

Mr Van Rensburg described how, on arriving at Pistorius's house, he saw Miss Steenkamp's body covered in towels and plastic bags that the daughter of the estate administrator said she had used, with assistance from Pistorius, to try to stop the bleeding.

....more at link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nkamp.html

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I came across this screen-shot from the trial



I find it significant because it shows the plank with bullet holes with a corner right near the damaged steel panel on bath wall. It would be a good guess that it was the plank hitting the panel that dented it. Perhaps OP threw the plank out of his way to get to Reeva and assist.... but with these "Keystone Kops" who knows? They might have done it. Either way, the dented panel is not a mystery, and it's hard to fathom why the prosecution have been highlighting it?

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I wonder if there's some other reason why the prosecution would have been highlighting this plank, I don't think it's a mystery either, since we've already heard in evidence that this door had an odd construction, panel facing and plain on the other side - not something I've seen before, which has made me think the door would have been easily damaged and perhaps a piece of panelling fell off with the impact of either a bullet or two, or the bat - either way I don't feel it's important.

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I am talking about the square stainless steel panel.

The "Ricky Jervais" guy was given that as separate evidence.. and did analysis..

Photo showing close-up of damaged steel panel

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Oh I see what you mean - sorry, and yes it could be that OP threw it out of his way - by the time he got into the bathroom, he would have been in quite a state [I'd imagine] whether he was aiming at shooting Reeva or whether he was genuinely aiming at stopping an intruder - anyone would have been in quite a hyped up state by that time, once he saw it was Reeva, his reaction would have been to try to bring her back, at least this would be my take if he is innocent of this, so anything lying about the floor would have been kicked or pushed out of the way surely.

I'm finding it hard to imagine, we are dealing with a mature and experienced set of crime scene officers here, I have to keep nudging myself to believe it.

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I dunno... cops and CSI seem to stuff things up EVERY case.. even in USA..... perhaps not as bad as these guys... and perhaps they are usually not as blatant and unrepentant
I have long since come to the conclusion that CSI etc is crap (on some details) for every case... we only get to see it for cases that become "high profile" for what ever reason. They do a crap job for every case. If they KNEW in advance it would be high profile they might try harder?

What I can not understand with the Pritorius case is that they DID KNOW this was going to be a biggie with him involved... right from first arrival on the scene. This must be the BEST they can do

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Absolutely true, from the first call to that house, seeing what the first officer to arrive saw, knowing who's house it was - you bet it would be a big case and they'd know it.

You would think every effort would be made to put the best people on the case, and to protect beyond anything, all those possible items from the scene.

It beggar's belief to be honest - and are we expected to believe these officers of the law are South Africa's best - I don't think we are. I note the last one who has just given evidence is a 'former' officer of the law, wonder why that is, or maybe he retired!!

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I'm not at all impressed with Nel, but am increasingly impressed by Barry Roux, he's had some very well off clients to defend in his time, and seems to have earned a good reputation in SA so maybe he can get OP off - the more I watch and listen the more I see a mis-trial to be honest.

I'm also inclined to go with OP's version of what he said was in his mind that night.

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You are in for a treat Wroughead. Just wait until Roux get ahold of this guy

http://www.news.com.au/world/oscar-pist ... 6854256029

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OOOOOOOOOOOH!!! Wowee - now this explains a lot - you're right I can't wait - I expect this will be tomorrow's first witness for further cross.

Interesting.

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watching

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I'm enjoying the grilling Barry Roux is giving today - court is adjourned for lunch.

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Hi Wroughead.

Seems as I see you online I am in the midst of computer problems every night!

It must be you that causes my computer to crash!

A end up rebooting to fix it... and that takes a while. Back now and OK I hope


I really look forward to Roux..... but really it's not hard to discredit this rubbish investigation. I am wondering WHY they bothered taking it to court? No wonder they agonised about showing THIS to the world with live feed from Court. It is a farce.

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If only Oscar had known how slack the investigation was... he could have claimed Reeva was still alive when he left with the cops... one of them killed her for the watches.

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Yes I agree with you, if only he had known how amateur and inept those officers would turn out to be - his bad luck I'd say.

I noticed the site had crashed earlier, and wondered why you weren't still around, then I though maybe you're lack of sleep had caught up with you and it was you who crashed and not the site!!

This trial is better than watching a bad movie, and it passes the time LoL.

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The site crashing was AS WELL AS my computer playing up.

Site crash was Server... I have let them know of my displeasure...

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Oh yes - don't you let them off with any excuses either.

i've been over at the Casey Anthony forum - that case still mystifies me.

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So... they sacked the guy "first on the scene" for mishandling evidence... except he WASN'T first on the scene?

And he was not the most suspect cop on the case.... Botha is being hidden by prosecution




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ation.html

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Yes, indeed! This was the officer involved that we heard about months ago, who for me has no credibility at all.

I can't see how this case can continue to be honest, unless the Defense has a few good witnesses or revelations still to come.

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Hi Wroughead.... isn't it sad.... no more trial shenanigans for two days!

Two whole sleeps away

I don't see that the prosecution have scored any "clean hits". Any blow they laid on OP has been glancing ... deflected by Roux on Cross when necessary. Whatever they do end up scoring looks like failing far short of disproving OP's version (beyond reasonable doubt)
It seems to me that the Judge will have no option but to accept OP's version that he was acting in "Self Defence"

What remains perhaps, is for the State to produce an argument that OP's belief was not REASONABLE. I see no sign of the State addressing that point. I have already stated, I don't see how the State CAN argue that OP's belief was not reasonable... since they do not concede that he had that belief. I think the State is locked in to "OP is lying"

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