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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:50 am 
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A happy ending.

I feel for George seeing that vid.... imagining some of what he endured at the hands of a violent thug.

I see in this case had a happier ending...

....the grand jury empaneled to review the shooting returned a “no bill” against Police Officer Donald Hubbard, meaning no criminal action will be taken against him for the shooting death....

A good result from the Judicial system, but I am reminded of all that George went through AFTER the traumatic events of the shooting, and George continues to face more hurdles.

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Just when I thought I was OUT (of the blogging "business"), they pull me back in! (for St Skittles Day) :doh

renewsit Image :cool Rumpole

So... another Rumpole "guest blog" at renewsit

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Celebration Day - February 26th 2014

Today marks the 2nd anniversary of of the attack on George Zimmerman by Trayvon Martin, and George's shooting of Martin in self defence.

If anybody reading disputes that interpretation of the events two years ago... I refer you to the trial in regards this matter, and George's ACQUITTAL. :neener


.....more at link
http://www.re-newsit.com/2014/02/celebr ... -2014.html

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What the scheme team and martin family wanted the world to believe
http://imgur.com/DG92isc


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:26 am 
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We already have Traybot Worriers hailing TM's Birthday as some sort of "Holy Day" ("Traymas"?)

And down in the Twitter sewer and at "True Gossip Forums" (like InSession2), they will I am sure be treating the anniversary of TM's death as a Holy Day too. (Tray-Easter).

As I have already noted:
"Tray-Easter" will of course be observed around the closest long weekend..around Feb 26th....."Good Herb Friday" to "Creepy-ass-cracker Sunday" Typically celebrated by sharing "the Tray-Communion" Skittles and Ice tea .. the body and blood of TM (Communion to be taken while wearing a hoodie and talking on a cell phone)

Maybe eat traditional "burning-cross buns"... symbolic of "subliminal racism" still afoot in society.

A time to remember and celebrate TM "rising from the dead" as it were, as a marketing "Band Name" ...Trayvon™
Sabrina Fulton)

And of course the Sunday before Tray-Easter will become known as "Cannabis Palm Sunday"... celebrating TM's triumphal arrival in Sanford (after being thrown off the bus for punching the driver).
Rather than a procession of the assembled worshippers carrying palms, devotees should follow TM's lead and stick a cannabis plant up their ass, and all hobble in procession :lol


I added this reply to the Blog itself

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Happy Statute of Limitation Day!

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And a Happy Statute of Limitation Day to you too Chip!


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are we sure this is the correct date? Statute of Limitations begin at the date crime committed? do they have until the end of business today? Just asking! :)

I was always pretty sure they wouldn't/couldn't/shouldn't.


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I would think they have until 5:00 EST to file.


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chipbennett wrote:
Happy Statute of Limitation Day!

I actually have it "on good authority" that in Florida the 2 year Statute of Limitations does NOT apply to a homicide. There is no Statute of Limitations if the death is the result of a homicide. :(

However, the fact that Crump has not filed after 2 years is significant never-the-less. He is almost certain to fail and hence certain to have to pay all costs.

When you think about it.... Zimmerman's claim of Self Defence could not be dis proven beyond reasonable doubt at the murder trial. If Crump were to file a Wrongful Death Suit, there would be an "Immunity Hearing" where a Judge would assess the self defence claim "On Balance of the evidence" (much lower standard for Zimmerman to meet. It should be a "no brainer" that GZ would be granted Immunity.. and be awarded costs.

H/T Plain Ole Dave at Nettles Blog.....

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The reason there his been no civil suit is because it is prohibited by law....

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s.776.012, s.776.013, or s.776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.
(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.
(3)The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection


The 2013 Florida Statutes
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/ind ... /0776.html

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Another huge reason for not filing suit, is that it opens the door to bring in the evidence that they know is hanging over them. The phone records, the BIN file, who is Witness 8, etc. Huge risk for little chance of reward.


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It seems there is no statute of limitations in civil wrongful death cases resulting from homicides

http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-r ... 164151.php

This past June, Florida governor Charlie Crist signed the "Jeffrey Klee Memorial Act" into law. The legislation effectively eliminates the statute of limitations for filing civil suits for wrongful death by homicide in Florida. Crist praised the legislation as expanding the protection of Florida's citizens and ensuring that criminals are held accountable for their actions, "no matter who the criminals or victims are or when the crimes took place."


95.11 Limitations other than for the recovery of real property.


http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/ind ... 95.11.html

(4)WITHIN TWO YEARS.— (d) An action for wrongful death.

10) FOR INTENTIONAL TORTS RESULTING IN DEATH FROM ACTS DESCRIBED IN S.782.04 OR S.782.07.—Notwithstanding paragraph (4)(d), an action for wrongful death seeking damages authorized under s.768.21 brought against a natural person for an intentional tort resulting in death from acts described in s.782.04 or s.782.07 may be commenced at any time. This subsection shall not be construed to require an arrest, the filing of formal criminal charges, or a conviction for a violation of s.782.04 or s.782.07 as a condition for filing a civil action.

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I see a LOT of "Hoodies Up" type Tweets and posts at the "True Gossip" forums.....

Just for that crowd......


George has been Acquitted............ :neener

For Traybot Worriers:
HOODIES DOWN - DEPENDS UP

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Rumpole wrote:
I actually have it "on good authority" that in Florida the 2 year Statute of Limitations does NOT apply to a homicide. There is no Statute of Limitations if the death is the result of a homicide. :(


Arrest for second-degree murder + trial + acquittal = no homicide. So even if true, that exception doesn't apply.

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However, the fact that Crump has not filed after 2 years is significant never-the-less. He is almost certain to fail and hence certain to have to pay all costs.

When you think about it.... Zimmerman's claim of Self Defence could not be dis proven beyond reasonable doubt at the murder trial. If Crump were to file a Wrongful Death Suit, there would be an "Immunity Hearing" where a Judge would assess the self defence claim "On Balance of the evidence" (much lower standard for Zimmerman to meet. It should be a "no brainer" that GZ would be granted Immunity.. and be awarded costs.


You and I (and everyone else here) knows that this is the *real* reason no wrongful death suit was filed.

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H/T Plain Ole Dave at Nettles Blog.....

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The reason there his been no civil suit is because it is prohibited by law....

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—


Except that no 776.032 adjudication 776.032 has been made in this case. The respondent in a civil suit would have to ask for a 776.032 hearing. Again, Zimmerman would clearly win such a hearing, again making the Scheme Team responsible for the costs of the civil suit (as you said above).

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Rumpole wrote:
It seems there is no statute of limitations in civil wrongful death cases resulting from homicides

10) FOR INTENTIONAL TORTS RESULTING IN DEATH FROM ACTS DESCRIBED IN S.782.04 OR S.782.07.—Notwithstanding paragraph (4)(d), an action for wrongful death seeking damages authorized under s.768.21 brought against a natural person for an intentional tort resulting in death from acts described in s.782.04 or s.782.07 may be commenced at any time. This subsection shall not be construed to require an arrest, the filing of formal criminal charges, or a conviction for a violation of s.782.04 or s.782.07 as a condition for filing a civil action.


Zimmerman was tried and acquitted for acts described in 782.04 (murder) and 782.07 (manslaughter).

EDIT: to clarify - since Zimmerman *was* charged, tried, and acquitted for acts described in 782.04 and 782.07, double-jeopardy would attach to any attempt to bring a civil suit for acts described in 782.04 and 782.07, would it not?

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This "debate" about Statutes of limitations has been going on for a while. I have been feverishly trying to resolve it behind the scenes :95

I take your points, Chip and am unsure based on my own reading still, but...

What I have quoted is a "legal opinion" from somebody whose legal opinion I regard highly.

It all comes down to 2010 "...Charlie Crist signed the "Jeffrey Klee Memorial Act" into law" :(

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chipbennett wrote:
Arrest for second-degree murder + trial + acquittal = no homicide. So even if true, that exception doesn't apply.

"Homicide" = Death at the hands of another person.

The killing of TM was Homicide.

It was "Justifiable homicide"

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Jesse Jackson exploits anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death, because he’s Jesse Jackson

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/26/jesse ... z2uSNS6Gfl


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Don't know if you are aware but plain ole dave is my alternate wordpress identity.... that be me ! :P


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I Knew that... but I respect people's various names at different places :)

But Ok if people "out" themselves.

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Something so wrong about Tracy Martin trying to help Trayvon acquire illegal handguns and then complaining to Sharpton that "America loves guns more than its children "



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