Rumpole, I agree that SZ should get out of the media, and generally just stop what she's doing. But I also understand her feeling provoked by GZ bringing his girlfriend, and wanting her side told. According to the Daily Mail article linked a page or so ago, GZ has done his share, and has emotionally hurt others in his life too. It's not all her.

At this point, I'm just not comfortable looking at either one as anything other than a victim of some pretty horrendous circumstances, brought about by a lynch mob.

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Thanks for the link.

I don't know that her lawyer didn't tell her to keep records, and/or to record everything. I strongly, very, very strongly disapprove of SZ having anything at all to do with the media. There is no way that is justified. Zero. None. All I'm saying is that GZ has also done things.

Under the best of circumstances, without infidelity, media and lynch mobs (but I repeat myself), divorce is a very stressful, very trying time. People say and do unbelievable things, and can be very, very cruel to each other. However, this case does have infidelity, media and lynch mobs, so I don't think it's reasonable to expect these two to behave with perfect decorum.

Their mental states must be terrible after being traumatized by things out of their control for over a year. I'd be surprised if either of them isn't suffering from some form of ptsd. I don't know if you've ever tried to comfort a young woman in her 20's who has been cheated on, then summarily dumped by her husband. Even without all of the other stuff, the living in fear, the hiding out, the trailer in the woods, the trial, the media, it's not an easy thing.

Neither of these two are themselves after all they've suffered. They both have a lot to lash out over. I'm very sorry they're lashing out at each other. But again, I don't see either one as a monster. I still lay the blame at the feet of the lynch mob including the media,.

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Well liesel you may not be comfortable with it but I am. I have no problem calling it what it is. Like I said in my blog the why matters not. There is no justification or excuse for Shellie turning Trayvonite and running off to Chrisi O’Connor with all the goods especially the same day the investigation begins. That is not merely wanting her side told. That is vengeance. She is destroying any chance of George bringing civil suit while simultaneously in effect supporting a civil suit against George from the Estate of Trayvon Martin. She has turned traitor.

By the way I seriously doubt that blond woman, Samantha, is George's girlfriend. Shellie didn't know she was there until the end of the 911 call anyway.

Reading the report it seems to me like Shellie was lying. Sorry all but that is what I see. She claims that she saw George hit her father but on the 911 call she said she didn't see it but his glasses were on the ground. We have the person that tried to hold her father off of George saying he is the one that accidentally hit David when he was holding him back.

Hi folks

Just arrived home and see so much news has happened today? Have all of you been able to keep up with it? I can't believe some of what I have read so far. The ME law suit, the police report about the domestic dispute etc.

The ME claiming the state didn't prepare him.

Hi Taurus.

Yes.... just a little "news" really... but it is like red meat to the circling forum sharks (on both sides of reality)

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I would have thought that someone on probation (for perjury) would figure out for herself (or be advised) that lying (or even exaggerating) was an absolute NO GO?

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Makes you wonder what she is thinking or not thinking.

Hi there! I missed that part on the ME. Do you recall where you saw it?

I have seen a Traybot Worrier tweet about cops considering warrant to get access to Shellie's "iCloud"? any confirmation of that?

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Have you all seen this about Bao?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/11/t ... lost-case/

HEADS UP

Shellie going to give a news conferance within the hour according to HLN

also this is new from O'Mara

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... TE=DEFAULT

Not only that but their attorneys should have told them to have a police escort. This was a dumb move on both their parts.

According to this, George wasn't the one who touched Shellie's Dad:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... story?Sdea

George Zimmerman: Police report released, no charges 'any time soon'

LAKE MARY - George Zimmerman did so much damage to an iPad that his estranged wife was using to video-record their domestic argument that authorities cannot quickly recover images and thus he will not face arrest "any time soon," police said today.

Police today also released their report from the incident, which occurred Monday at a house on Sprucewood Road.

Shellie Zimmerman, her father and a helper had gone to the house, where Zimmerman was living, to collect her property in the wake of her recently filed divorce.

However, an argument erupted between George Zimmerman and Shellie Zimmerman's father, David Dean, the report states.

According to the report, Shellie Zimmerman told police on the scene that George Zimmerman had punched her father and threatened everyone inside the house with a gun.

At some point during the argument, George Zimmerman reached into his shirt and urged Dean, to "step closer," Shellie told police. Dean said, "'What are you going to do, shoot me?' "

Shellie Zimmerman told police Zimmerman took her iPad from her as she attempted to record the incident, smashed it on his leg, "then took out a knife and pried it open" before throwing it on the ground.

George Zimmerman told police that he did not brandish a gun or threaten anyone with a gun, according to the report.

Officers who responded and searched Zimmerman didn't find a gun on him, police officials have said.

George Zimmerman said Shellie's father confronted him in the garage, charged him and tried to attack him, according to the report. Zimmerman said a friend with him grabbed Dean to keep them separate, and Shellie smacked the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer several times on the back with her iPad.

George Zimmerman told police he grabbed the iPad "in an attempt to get her to stop hitting him" with it, the report states.

He then walked outside to end the encounter, he told an officer.

Moments earlier, George Zimmerman said he had begun video-recording the household items Shellie and her father had put into his truck and Shellie, in turn, had begun to video-record on her iPad what George was doing.

Eugene Johnson III, a helper hired by Shellie Zimmerman's father, told police that George Zimmerman was very aggressive, appeared to reach for a gun and said, " 'Come towards me. You are threatening me,' " according to the report.

A friend of Zimmerman's who was there that day, Wesley Robinson, a 6-foot, 350-pound man, told police that Shellie's father went after George Zimmerman, and Robinson stepped in to separate them and restrained Dean. When he let Dean loose, he said, Dean went after George Zimmerman again.

Robinson said his forearm accidentally hit Dean in the face during the altercation.

A woman in George's truck, Samantha Scheibe, told police that there were guns in his truck but that she and George had concealed-weapons permits for them.

Sheibe, according to the report, was shaken by what had happened.

Her relationship with George Zimmerman was not immediately clear.

Lake Mary Officer Zach Hudson said today that without video corroboration to Shellie Zimmerman's allegation that her husband threatened to harm her, there would be no arrest.

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Thanks Taurus

Oh Dear... What is up with Shellie? I can not see she is doing herself any good by more media appearances.

Please keep us posted on HLN... if Shellie appears.

I see at HLN site "George Zimmerman is off the hook -- for now."

I think it more likely that SHELLIE is off the hook for now.

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Nor am I. I feel compassion for both of them. Blondie, not so much.

I was ready to lay most of the blame at Shellie's feet, primarily because she went public -- to the media -- which would be the very last thing in the world I would do were I in her shoes. Then I learned about blondie. That's a horse of a different color right there. If there's one provocation for going to the media I can almost wrap my head around, it's the estranged husband taking up with another woman immediately upon his acquittal. If I had just spent 18 + months hiding out, my life on hold through no fault of my own, only to have my husband tell me to eff off in such a manner, well ... not sure I'd react in a particularly sane fashion either.

Would it be the better part of valor for Shellie to have responded in a calm, dignified, entirely private manner to this latest insult? Sure it would. Would I expect her to? Nope.

More on Bao

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/articl ... 803188.php

Did you find O'Mara's comment odd in the link I posted about ccming between family?


Mark O'Mara, who represented George Zimmerman in his murder trial, said on Monday that his client did nothing wrong and the dispute was typical for a couple going through a divorce. On Tuesday, O'Mara said he was not going to represent George Zimmerman in this matter.

"I've come to know them as a family, and it's not a good idea to get in between them," O'Mara said.
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