The following is from MailOnline, (The Daily Mail). It purports to cite John Donnelly, the honorable vet with experience recognizing highly stressed voices in Viet Nam, who testified at GZ's trial, and his wife, Leanne Benjamin, who also testified. It's a media report, so could be just more "narrative" rather than actual reporting of facts. IOW, read with a grain, or box, of salt.

There is a lot more at The Daily Mail.

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Thanks, Justfactsplz. I wish both of them the best, and hope they're both able to get through this and on with their lives.

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Why would it take months to get the video off the flash drive?

https://twitter.com/renestutzman/status ... 7694537729

Posted by DiwataMan above:

Thanks, DiwataMan. At least that's some good news, no charges against either. Maybe things will get quiet for them now, and they'll be able to get through it all.

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You're welcome and I forgot how to make tweets show up here so thanks for that. The only way things are going to quiet down is if the police stress the message that they may charge Shellie for making false reports. Shellie going all Trayvonite on us isn't helping anything, well, except for the Estate of Trayvon Martin.

Regardless, I can't understand why it would take so long to retrieve the data on the flash drive. If they don't have the equipment to read from it then I would assume all they would need to do is get another iPad and put the flash drive in it but then again we are talking Apple here so god only knows, lol.

Maybe they have to let Tracy Martin make sure there is nothing he wants to delete first?

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DiwataMan, I'd think charging or threatening to charge either would keep things going, instead of quieting down. I listened to her call only once, so certainly didn't study it, but don't recall anything she said that would be easily proven false, especially with MOM confirming GZ had a weapon, and with her knowing his propensity to carry. But I dunno...

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Let us not forget Shellie is on probation. If she wants to keep pushing things she's putting herself at risk of violating that. It's pretty clear at least from the video and preliminary investigation, George wasn't threatening anyone with shooting, he didn't have his hand anywhere near where he keeps his gun during that moment right before tearing the iPad apart. Shellie's behavior on that video is nearly the complete opposite of how she sounds and how she was making it all out to be.

I'm not disputing that SZ at least contributed to the problems, if not outright caused them. I'm just saying she's not alone. According to MOM, GZ did have his hand on his weapon at some point, 'to make sure it was holstered' or something like that. So, as I posted, I don't think it would be easily proven that her allegation that he had his hand on his weapon was false.

I agree, with her being on probation she should be extra careful to avoid such confrontations. However, I also think that given GZ's circumstances, as unfair as they are, he should also be careful to avoid them. That SZ is on probation is also unfair, imo. I don't think she did anything wrong, and I don't think her husband should have been charged in the first place, giving rise to the opportunity to charge her with perjury.

According to the Daily Mail article linked above, he was cheating on her prior to 2/26/2012, but she stuck by him throughout the investigation and trial.

I don't think she's an awful person, but I do think she has gone through an awful 16 months along with him, and that's she's going through another of the worst things people way too often have to go through. Is she doing it with grace, maturity, and amicably? Nope. But I'm not sure I would either, under the circumstances. A lot of people don't, even with a lot less going on. Divorces are horribly emotional for both parties very often, even without infidelity, national media attention, and a lynch mob on their backs.

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As I understand it, Mark O'Mara wasn't at the scene during the incident, and is not acting as counsel for George Zimmerman in this matter or anything having to do with the separation/divorce. Thus, George would not have consulted with O'Mara about the incident.

So, on what basis does O'Mara speak with any authority regarding what happened during the incident?

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From working in Florida, I know if there was any contact such as punching the father in law in the nose, the police are bound by law to arrest. If there was any gun pointing and threats, the police are bound to arrest and confiscate the weapon.

If anything happens after this, and no arrest was made, the police become liable. I believe nothing happened except verbally and if the computer was damaged, that is his property too and he can destroy his own property.

I wonder why the media hasn't picked up on him now seeing the woman who had tried to have him arrested before. They are reporting a domestic dispute in his past, but if that is the same woman, that sure cancels that out.

I believe this was all a verbal dispute.

liesel, Shellie is the one recording things, keeping texts, exaggerating things then running off to the Trayvonite camp with the info. You want to give George partial blame for that?

Here's the police report by the way:
http://twitdoc.com/upload/jeffweineros/ ... report.pdf

Does anyone know if George still lives in that house and Shellie had moved out? She had her day to be there last Saturday IIRC. If she wanted to pick something up she should have called for police to stand by. Police will do that to keep the peace. Same with GZ. If he doesn't live there and was there to pick something up, he should have called for a police standby.

I am not "vilifying" Shellie, but.........

There have now been a few "incidents" where she has drawn the Media spotlight onto herself and George. That (IMO) is the wrong thing to do. And SHE of all people should KNOW what dogs the media are (especially the people she gave interviews to)

I take no position on the marriage break-up. Who is "right" who is wrong" Who said what to whom? Who "started it? etc etc etc Is not my business... except to say... from my observations of others... since it has got to this level of bickering and acrimony they SHOULD split. Make a clean break of it. That COULD be a simple thing to arrange. No children and custody battles. Not much property to divide up... etc.
So.... not vilifying Shellie... but she needs to pull her head in.. and STOP doing stuff in public... especially stop feeding Media Whores with interviews and now "copies of her text messages with George"? What is THAT about? Sure looks like she wants to make this a public circus.

If she did "make up" or exagerate the 911 call... then I take a VERY dim view of it. She could easily have got George killed...

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He spoke from the scene, acting as GZ's counsel or spokesman at that moment. It wasn't until the next day that he announced he wouldn't represent GZ in any dv or dissolution matters. Other than that, I have no idea.

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I'm in FL too and I know that if no one admits to "touching" then no one can be arrested because there is no evidence. I also know that destroying the ipad can be viewed as destroying his own property, but that it can also be viewed as violence if it's taken from one's spouse, or done as a threat. I could go on, but my point is that there's the law, which in essence requires that on any dv call someone must go to jail, but that's not always the same as what happens in practice. If it was, one of them would have went to jail yesterday.

As far as I know, SZ at no time alleged GZ brandished any weapon. She said she felt threatened by him, and by him having his hand on it. MOM said GZ had his hand on his weapon.

It clearly was not all a verbal dispute. The ipad was not verbally destroyed. SZ's father's nose has a mark on it. MOM said there was some shoving or pushing.

I am truly not comfortable pointing out ways that GZ bears some responsibility here. But I am also not comfortable in putting it all on SZ. They've both done some very hurtful things to each other.

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Lake Mary police release report in George Zimmerman domestic dispute

Video still being extracted from Shellie Zimmerman's iPad

Published On: Sep 11 2013 11:28:22 AM EDT Updated On: Sep 11 2013 02:45:33 PM EDT

LAKE MARY, Fla. - Lake Mary police have released more information in a police report on Wednesday in the alleged domestic disturbance incident between George Zimmerman and his wife.

In the report, George Zimmerman claimed that Shellie Zimmerman was taking things that didn't belong to her from the house they both lived in together. He also told police that he took Shellie's iPad because she was hitting him with it.

Shellie Zimmerman and her father, David Dean, both said in the report that George Zimmerman banged the iPad and pried it open with a knife before throwing it.

The report also states that George Zimmerman was taking photos of his wife removing belongings from the house in the moments before the dispute.

Shellie Zimmerman, who recently filed for divorce, said that Zimmerman showed up at the house while she was removing belongings, stuck his arm inside her father's truck parked outside the house and then locked the front door to the house.

Local 6 is in the process of going through the report. Check back for more detailed information.

The focus of the investigation is not-yet-released video from Shellie Zimmerman's broken iPad, which police say was recording the incident as it happened. Shellie Zimmerman says her husband broke the iPad.

Police confirmed on Wednesday morning that the Seminole County Sheriff's Office has the iPad and the digital forensics unit is reviewing it. Officer Zach Hudson said the iPad has major damage and it may take months to get the video.

...more at link
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/lake-m ... index.html

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Thanks for the Police Report link, Dman, and I agree... Shellie is throwing out chum bait and getting the Media Piranha in a feeding frenzy... she should STFU first... then let lawyers haggle in private over the piddling divorce arrangements.

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