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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:44 pm 
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John_Galt wrote:
I think the defense timeline is likely to be correct.

http://gzdocs.com/documents/opening_gra ... meline.jpg


They didn't account for the discrepancy between T-Mobile time and SCSO time. They should have hired Dman :52 lolz, I love tootin my own horn :91


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John_Galt wrote:
I think the defense timeline is likely to be correct.

http://gzdocs.com/documents/opening_gra ... meline.jpg

I'd have to set up a spreadsheet to figure out how they compare!


ADD: Besides, the defense times do not match the T-Mobile times.


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They didn't account for the discrepancy between T-Mobile time and SCSO time. They should have hired Dman :52 lolz, I love tootin my own horn :91


Defense and State had all the phone records, ping logs, and call logs from the phones themselves. I can't believe that nobody on either side could do 4th grade math.


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I would have agreed with you before following this case.... but now I could easily believe something like this time discrepancy could be missed. At the very least seen and kept secret (by BDLR) :)

What Ping Logs?

I see no mention of ping logs having been obtained?

Surely with the Florida "Sunshine laws" Ping logs would HAVE to be made public?

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They were not introduced as exhibits, but O'Mara mentioned an out of location ping for Trayvon's phone in an interview. So they have ping logs.


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Rumpole wrote:
I would have agreed with you before following the is case.... but now I could easily believe something like this time discrepancy could be missed. At the very least seen and kept secret (by BDLR) :)

What Ping Logs?

I see no mention of ping logs having been obtained?

Surely with the Florida "Sunshine laws" Ping logs would HAVE to be made public?


Galt is correct but they weren't just out of area, they showed other towers as well. The map was actually in the SPD file so someone, either the SPD or the FDLE(Wolfinger investigation) did get info regarding the cell tower information, whether or not that includes call info is unknown. We have to remember they had their man, they had their story, there was no need to look into Trayvon.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:05 pm 
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Yes.... THEY (LE) had their man.... THEY were closing their eyes to details on TM....

But as we were all saying (at CTH).... the DEFENCE needed to go into the details of the ping logs and all other phone info.

If they did.... they did not release their findings.

My (uninformed) understanding is that (with some exceptions) all evidence, documents, ping logs have to be made public?
I guess somebody (the media) have to ask for it? And perhaps pay for it?


I remember that for the Casey Anthony case.. a WS member (Musikman) was obtaining his own copies of discovery... paper copies or discs. He had to pay (and we donated for expenses) but he was able to obtain his own copies in same way media outlets could.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:17 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
Yes.... THEY (LE) had their man.... THEY were closing their eyes to details on TM....
But as we were all saying (at CTH).... the DEFENCE needed to go into the details of the ping logs and all other phone info.

If they did.... they did not release their findings.

My (uninformed) understanding is that (with some exceptions) all evidence, documents, ping logs have to be made public?
I guess somebody (the media) have to ask for it? And perhaps pay for it?


PC O'Mara go into the black persons details? lol, nah, only when donations are needed.

Yeah, it called Sunshine Laws, which just happened to have been usurped by Corey's office using the nefarious practice of keeping the Subject heading of Emails clean of case number and party. God knows what else they do to win so Bernie can keep his 98% conviction rate.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:21 pm 
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Yes

I guess what I am saying is that the HUGE, ALL-ENCOMPASSING JUDICIAL INQUIRY that Judge Nelson will order when we next have a hearing on "Sanctions" will include violations of SUNSHINE law. :eek

I wait with antici................................ pation.

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I thought you said don't hold your breath, lol.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:24 pm 
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Yes....

Anticipate... but keep breathing :)

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:22 I feel like the mule that got beat lol. Just getting a clear head, so gonna try and catch up on a week I lost. Had surgery last Friday, hope all are doing :98 super duper~


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:29 am 
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Hope all went well Mimi :86


Take ya time... nothing critcal happening really... unless you count disgruntled BGI (and that's normal)

Traybot lynch mob are STILL IMPRINTED with the false narrative they were fed by the Scheme Team.

Seeing the Prosecution had no case, and seeing at least some signs that TM was NOT the person they were lied to about... has had no effect on them :lol

Well.... actually they are hiding even deeper in their own delusional sewer worlds. :)

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Trayvon's claim of self-defense might have been a little less straightforward than George's, and Wolfinger may have been able to at least get a manslaughter conviction, but I think Martin's attorney, a fellow named Mark O'Mara, might have been able to get him acquitted.


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Good morning, all! :28

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Glad you're back, arkansasmimi, and hope you're comfortable. :)

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Rumpole wrote:
Yes

I guess what I am saying is that the HUGE, ALL-ENCOMPASSING JUDICIAL INQUIRY that Judge Nelson will order when we next have a hearing on "Sanctions" will include violations of SUNSHINE law. :eek

I wait with antici................................ pation.


Nelson will obviously do nothing. I think I postulated a while back that the real purpose of the ongoing investigation by DOJ / FBI was to assist Scheme Team in covering their tracks with the "ongoing investigation" exception to required sunshine law disclosures. How convenient that the evidence has now been transferred to the DOJ. Recall that the defense attempt to get FBI documents resulted in Nelson telling the defense to get the documents from the FBI (wink, wink) and the FBI responding that Nelson is w/o jurisdiction to order the FBI to produce documents, and further suggesting that any official document requests would be reviewed with respect to the ongoing investigation exception. The proper procedure to get documents from the FBI after refusal of an official request to the FBI then requires filing a lawsuit in federal court, which would likely take years.


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Hi, JG - thanks for the analysis. It's just sickening, isn't it?

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Rush interview on Greta last night and O'Reilly continuing to take on the BGI videos posted in the Political snippets thread.

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liesel wrote:
Hi, JG - thanks for the analysis. It's just sickening, isn't it?


I'm hoping that Kruidbos and the federal judge in the wrongful termination case lay waste to Corey, forcing Scott to appoint a special prosecutor investigate Corey's office.


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