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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:08 pm 
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TrayMom™ Blames Stand Your Ground Law For Son’s Death…
Posted on July 26, 2013 by sundance

As you watch this, remember the truth that few actually understand. Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton killed Trayvon by being deadbeat detached parents.

Trayvon was raised by Alicia Stanley for 12 years. TrayMom™ kicked Trayvon out of the house in December. Trayvon was living with Uncle Stephen. Trayvon was diverted away from the criminal justice system by M-DSPD to try and save him from a life in the gladiator training ground of the State Penitentiary. Sybrina never travelled to Sanford or left Miami Gardens until having coordinated the school memorial to occur while she was in DC. She filed for her Trademarks of his name upon arrival in Orlando for the first time on 3/15/12.



Trayvon was a known and admitted marijuana drug user and seller. Trayvon was known by the police to be a local burglar. Trayvon was put on a bus to Sanford, by his father, with a roll of weed between his butt cheeks. Trayvon and his father texted each other about drugs and guns with Tracy Martin having no real aversion to Trayvon’s activity. He was then left alone for the weekend in the condo of Tracy’s mistress/girlfriend with no adult supervision. In addition all the physical and witness evidence supports Trayvon initiating the violent confrontation.

Both Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin lied on multiple occasions to Florida Law Enforcement about large and small aspects surrounding their son, their activities, and their engagements during the last days of his life. Intentional lies.

Yet Sybrina Fulton blames a law.

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http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ons-death/

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:12 pm 
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This circus needs to be STOPPED.... URGENTLY!!!

Once again we have a false narrative being spread.. loud clear and frequently... designed to further IMPRINT the hysterical masses....

Somebody needs to air the REAL story about who TM was, and who all the other players are. Firstly to slow down the false BS (perhaps) but obviously to at least present the real narrative.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:16 pm 
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Again from CTH.... our buddy, Chip on SYG

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It’s obvious, but: the moment that Martin had Zimmerman on the ground, mounted, and prevented him from any opportunity to escape, stand your ground was moot.

Stand your ground is merely the opposite of duty to retreat. Even without stand your ground, if Zimmerman would have had a statutory duty to retreat, he would still have been justified in using deadly force in self defense, because he had no opportunity to exercise a duty to retreat. As witnessed by John Good, Zimmerman tried to get up, and Martin repeatedly prevented Zimmerman from doing so.

The legal concept is disparity of force, and Martin had it in spades. He started out with a physical advantage (younger, stronger, more fit, more experience fighting), used the element of surprise to physically incapacitate his victim (sucker punch, broken nose), then put Zimmerman in the ultimate physically vulnerable position by taking him to ground and establishing a low full-mount position, in which Martin could strike Zimmerman unabated, and Zimmerman was rendered physically unable to defend himself or to return blows. Martin further incapacitated Zimmerman by striking Zimmerman’s head into the ground (grass, concrete, or both) multiple times.

Disparity of force = reasonable fear of imminent risk of life or great bodily harm = legal justification for the use of deadly force in self-defense.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:22 pm 
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When Is Evidence of Your Attacker’s Character Admissible In Court?

During the Zimmerman trial there was considerable consternation among much of the pubic that the trial judge, Debra Nelson, had excluded certain evidence about Trayvon Martin’s past, including his apparent drug use, illegal firearms dealing, passion for “street fighting”, among other pleasant character traits.

Now that the trial has ended in a not guilty verdict Judge Nelson’s evidentiary decisions will never face the scathing reversals they so richly deserve, and I won’t seek to revisit them here. Those decisions do, however, raise some more general evidentiary questions in the context of the law of self-defense. In particular, they raise the question of when, and why, you might be able to introduce into evidence information about the character of the person against whom you used defensive force.


If the defense continues to pursue sanctions, as they said they would, I think it's possible the DCA could consider these evidentiary rulings. Nelson may deny sanctions, saying there was no substantial discovery violation because the withheld material was inadmissible. The defense could appeal to the DCA, which might then have to determine if the evidence was admissible. That's a lot of maybes, but seems at least plausible. (I haven't heard for a while about a hearing on sanctions, so I'm not sure where that stands.)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:54 pm 
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The gullible lynch mob have turned their attention to SYG laws... wanting them repealed?

Clearly they have NO IDEA what such laws intail... they certainly can not grasp that SYG did not apply in the GZ case anyway.

But still they bleet.............


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Be There or Be Square...NOT

http://dreamdefenders.org/

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SINCE TUESDAY, JULY 16, WE HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING A SIT-IN OF GOV. RICK SCOTT’S OFFICE IN THE STATE CAPITOL. WE ARE CALLING ON THE GOVERNOR TO CONVENE A SPECIAL SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE TO ENACT THE TRAYVON’S LAW TO REPEAL STAND YOUR GROUND, BAN RACIAL PROFILING, AND END THE SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE.

ON THURSDAY, JULY 18TH, THE GOVERNOR FINALLY MET WITH US, BUT PROVIDED NO REAL LEADERSHIP. RATHER THAN CALLING FOR A SPECIAL SESSION, HE IS CALLING FOR A STATEWIDE DAY OF PRAYER TO END RACIAL PROFILING. BUT FAITH WITHOUT WORKS ISN’T JUSTICE.

WE ARE TAKING A STAND NOT ONLY IN TRAYVON’S MEMORY, BUT FOR OUR WORTH AS PEOPLE AND CITIZENS OF FLORIDA. WE CAN NOT ALLOW GOV. SCOTT TO NEGLECT HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF ALL FLORIDIANS.

WE ARE HERE UNTIL OUR STRUGGLE FOR JUSTICE IS WON. AND IF WE ARE TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD, WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT.

GOVERNOR SCOTT TOLD US THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR SUPPORT. WE KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA AND THE NATION ARE BEHIND US BUT WE NEED TO SHOW IT. CAN YOU DEMONSTRATE YOU SUPPORT BY SIGNING OUR PETITION?


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IN LIGHT OF THE KILLING OF TRAYVON MARTIN AND SUBSEQUENT ACQUITTAL OF GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, AND THE STARTLING STATISTICS OF YOUTH INCARCERATION, IT IS APPARENT TO MANY THAT FLORIDA IS IN A STATE OF CRISIS AND THE YOUTH URGENTLY NEED LEADERSHIP. WE, THE UNDERSIGNED, CALL ON GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT TO CONVENE A SPECIAL SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE TO ENACT “TRAYVON’S LAW”: TO REPEAL STAND YOUR GROUND, CONFRONT RACIAL PROFILING, AND END THE SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE.
WE CALL FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION ON THIS ISSUE AND ALL PARTNERS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT CARE FOR OUR YOUTH TO JOIN US IN DEMANDING THAT GOVERNOR SCOTT CALL FOR A SPECIAL SESSION OF LEGISLATURE TO ADDRESS HIS STATES’ YOUTH CRISIS


BBM - I see their demands, but don't see their solutions. Some of the things they are addressing is indicative of Trayvon Martin, a youth in crisis. These folks can't see the forest because the trees are in the way.


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Members of community forum on Trayvon death call for change

http://www.news-journalonline.com/artic ... ?p=2&tc=pg

"There is a change that's in the air and in the atmosphere," Glasgow said. "Stand in the way, and you will get run over."


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George Zimmerman Stoned Trayvon Martin: Deuteronomy 21 : 18 - 21


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Harry Belafonte Joins Fla. Capitol Protestors

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/07/26/43 ... h-fla.html

Belafonte said Friday that Scott still has a chance to act before the protests intensify and the situation becomes "ungovernable."

Threats much....these people need to be arrested for the veiled threats.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:31 pm 
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Belafonte said Friday that Scott still has a chance to act before the protests intensify and the situation becomes "ungovernable."

Threats much....these people need to be arrested for the veiled threats.


Hopefully the response will be if the situation gets out of hand ("ungovernable"), you will be arrested.


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Re: Traymom™ video

Oh goodness... where to start with Traymom™'s blatant lies... so many lies in less than three minutes.

1. No college for TM™ she said, as if there was any real expectation, or even chance of that with the track he was on. What was it? 53 days of school he'd already missed? Third suspension so far that school year that we know of?

2. No grandchildren from TM™ that she knows of or admits.

3. All because a law didn't hold GZ accountable. Huh? How did the consequences to GZ change the consequences to her? If GZ had been convicted TM™ would have somehow been able to go to college and bring grandchildren to visit her?

4. And the law that caused GZ to be acquitted was self defense, justifiable homicide, not SYG.

5. According to the jury/legal system, there was no "crime" - awful or otherwise. (IMO, only because TM™ wasn't on trial, because imo, a crime was committed that night, TM™ assaulting GZ.)

And that's just her first sentence, less than one minute. She goes on to say this shouldn't happen to anyone else's child. But I don't think she means the potentially deadly assault GZ suffered.

This woman offends me so much. So very, very much. She is just such a reprehensible piece of work, downright disgusting. Gosh, I hope the truth about her schemes and her son come to light mainstream. I mean the jumbo-tron in Times Square kind of exposure.
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Belafonte said Friday that Scott still has a chance to act before the protests intensify and the situation becomes "ungovernable."


I think so too. There is still time for K-9s, pepper spray, tear gas, water cannons and rubber bullets. If Scott fails to act soon, stronger measures may be required.


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Did George Zimmerman Get Away With Murder

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... ramed.html

The media are reporting that a juror says Zimmerman is guilty of murder. That’s not true.


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Trayvon's Law: Zero tolerance in high schools for assault, drug dealing, theft, vandalism. Perps will be expelled and prosecuted to the full extent of the criminal justice system, as adults, w/o any opportunity for diversion or plea bargains. Any school faculty or school police force member that fails to report or attempts to cover up or conceal such crimes will be fired and prosecuted for failure to report and/or false reporting and/or being an accessory after the fact.


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Excellent! You do the crime, you do the time. It's time for some responsibility and accountability.


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So TrayMom is tossing Marissa under the bus to save the image of her homeless thug?

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/07/25/stand-yo ... ts-appeal/
Stand Your Ground under scrutiny, as Marissa Alexander awaits appeal


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>>>>>>>>>>> UPDATE <<<<<<<<<<<


http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/07/26/b-29-attorney-david-m-chico/

Update: B-29 Attorney: David M Chico – *Update* Chico was the prosecutor in the 2005 case against Zimmerman


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flgirl543 wrote:
Did George Zimmerman Get Away With Murder

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... ramed.html

The media are reporting that a juror says Zimmerman is guilty of murder. That’s not true.


Hi,

I came to see if anyone has posted about that article. It is interesting. I found that article through this one which is about it:

Did ABC News Deceptively Edit Zimmerman Juror’s Controversial Interview? An Unlikely Source Is Calling Them Out

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07 ... -them-out/

The title of that article drew my attention sooner then the main part of the title from the Slate article. I hope we get to see the full interview.


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If the defense continues to pursue sanctions, as they said they would, I think it's possible the DCA could consider these evidentiary rulings. Nelson may deny sanctions, saying there was no substantial discovery violation because the withheld material was inadmissible. The defense could appeal to the DCA, which might then have to determine if the evidence was admissible. That's a lot of maybes, but seems at least plausible. (I haven't heard for a while about a hearing on sanctions, so I'm not sure where that stands.)


Hi, MJW! So nice to cyber see you! :28

MOM's recent interviews have left me very hopeful that he intends to leave no reasonable stone unturned, beyond sanctions and well into multiple civil suits.

I expect Nelson will deny sanctions also based on no prejudice to the defense - they won. Whether or not they'll appeal is difficult to predict, but I believe MOM and West have righteous anger over the state's actions. MOM said in 30 years of practice, he's never filed a motion for sanctions against the state but filed six in this case. It's personal. And it's big. So I remain hopeful. :)

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The sanctions have absolutely nothing to do with winning or losing, it deals with the cost of unwarranted costs in prep for the trial.


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