http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... ack-voices

Testimony from a former co-worker who says he was bullied by G. Zimmerman. A middle eastern, I think.
Does this show mindset? WHO IS he? Scares me.

I don't think Trayvon was doing anything "wrong"... but neither was GZ.

Many many communities have "neighbourhood watch" set ups .. or just nosy individuals.... I don't think its unreasonable to report a lone male stranger wandering around at night... nor is it unreasonable to try and keep an eye on what they are up to before the cops arrive.

Nothing was amiss until there was a physical confrontation.

If the two of them were just talking... even shouting and hurling verbal abuse at each other.... it would have all been resolved when the cops arrived. But... it escalated into a fight...ending in tragedy.

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Totally agree R.

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2 ... lakes.html

Here is a map/diagram of the Retreat at Twin Lakes, where Trayvon died. There are more maps around ...

http://wayne2008sblogsite.wordpress.com ... on-martin/

When this was on Nancy G. and Jane VM I could not hear this racial slur. I couldn't.
This came to my attention, via computer and I have very good glass pillar Harman speakers. I could HEAR IT. Under his breath
almost, but CLEAR. It's somewhere I believe when he says "He's headed to the back entrance..." Not sure about that but somewhere around there. Turn up your volume and listen. Sometime after he says "Those A** H***S always get awy." Later he says - - F*****G Coons.

It's things like this that make me not trust nor like Zimmerman. "Something is wrong there..." to quote him but it's about HIM I think.

Lordy Lordy.

I just checked for us, then have to run.

On the above link - listen CAREFULLY after he says "He's headed toward the back entrance" at 1:51 and 1:52

So Z. thought he was running toward the exit? He didn't think there are some townhouses down there and THAT'S where
Trayvon could be running to? To the end unit, on the left, where he was staying and NOT the back entrance? Loose cannon?

THIS is why I truly believe people need to REGISTER their Neighborhood Watch Groups for training, and on-going reinforcement of their bottom line "You are our eyes and ears. Call us - let US do our job." Neighborhood W A T C H. BTW, IF you register the cops check you out, vet them. I read one article where some of the Registered N.W. head people said "I don't think he would have gotten listed with us. All those phone calls ... 40 in a short time. How did they end? He was meaning were they VALID?? I will try to find that for you.

Have to run now ...

Dropped hubby off at the Drs. Was going to wait outside and read, too damp.

http://thegrio.com/2012/03/21/zimmerman ... anization/

Tells a bit about Registered Neighborhood Watches. I get these things from the other place. Some I found, some are not from me.
I am all for training though, by EXPERTS. We all know some people think they know everything and don't need any help from Experts in
their particular field. I never liked learning the "hard way". Too "expensive" for me. Dad taught me that.

Lawyers in George Zimmerman murder trial want some evidence sealed

George Zimmerman’s defense attorney wants a chance to review evidence before reporters get to see it.
By FRANCES ROBLES

George Zimmerman’s defense attorney wants 30 days to review sealed evidence before it’s released to the media, according to a new motion filed Thursday.
“Certain discovery, though completely irrelevant, may tend to inflame the passions of those in favor of one position or another in this matter,” attorney Mark O’Mara wrote in a pleading to the court. “As an example ... there are approximately 1,000 emails received by the Sanford Police Department regarding this case.”

....more at link
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/23/2 ... rylink=cpy


Mark M. O'Mara Motion dated 5/24/12
DEFENDENT'S CONCURRENCE TO THE STATE'S MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER AND OBJECTION TO RELEASE OF CERTAIN DISCOVERY AND REQUEST FOR DELAY IN RELEASE OF CERTAIN DISCOVERY TO ALLOW ANALYSIS

Link PDF (7 Pages)
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... _order.pdf

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I have read people who are real Psychopaths have been known to "fool" Lie Detector tests.
Now - I am wondering if they are really sick, CAN THEY also fool a Voice Stress Test?
Zimmerman - passed...

None of this is easy, is it?

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Prosecutors, George Zimmerman's Attorney Ask To Seal Discovery Materials
Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. has ordered a hearing for next Friday, June 1
By Edward B. Colby
Thursday, May 24, 2012
Updated 11:17 PM EDT

More at link
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Pros ... 38635.html

Seminole County Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. has ordered a hearing on the matter for next Friday afternoon, June 1 in the Sanford courthouse.

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http://youtu.be/tvwhGVWAdjII

I don't know much about drugs at all.
Does Trayvon look strange here? Here is the last video of him in the 7/11
that night ... minutes before he was killed.
Eerie ... isn't it?
Computer acting up... OCD lockout n my screen. UGH.

Having my coffee... checking

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf ... id=twitter

Wow, 3 days after the killing. Look how easily Zimmerman walks around the police station. Seems his "unregistered" Neighborhood Watch group gives him real entre to the police and the police station.

He REALLY needs that I think. Why didn't he take the police exam - again?

I have 2 friends who hung around place ... One was a TV station, BUT he was 14. Grew up to be one of the TOP TV Producers in Canada aTV.
The other, who was 15, started hanging around the Fire House. HE grew up to be a great Fireman.

But this guy is 28 ... wannabe...

R ~

We HAVE to stop meeting like this...

https://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress. ... -analysis/

Maps, article. Interesting.

Hi Joni.

We could meet up in the Daily Discourse Thread...etc.

I know we disagree about this case

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Only kidding. It's only us! rofl

OK maybe when I can, will go there.

Angela Corey needs her head examined
By Hal Boedeker, Staff writer
11:50 a.m. EST, May 19, 2012

Talk about ironic timing. Special Prosecutor Angela Corey late Friday came out strongly against public records.

"The public's right to know should never trump the state's right to a fair trial or especially the defendant's right to a fair trial," Corey said at a civic forum in Jacksonville.

Her comments came a day after a mound of evidence in the George Zimmerman case was released. Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

Corey bemoaned misinformation in the media and on the Internet about the case. But the document release Thursday provided more details and added to the public's understanding.
Corey's comments were self-serving. The document release actually seemed to help Zimmerman's case, many analysts have said, because photographs documented his injuries the night of the shooting.

Corey's comments raise a crucial question: Just how good is her case?

...more at link
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... ivic-forum

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Jane VM is having a rerun right now.

Legal fight likely looms over identifying witnesses in Zimmerman case
By Jeff Weiner and Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
6:46 p.m. EST, May 24, 2012

Attorneys on both sides of the case have said they're concerned about what could happen if important civilian witnesses are identified publicly before trial. When a large portion of the evidence in the case was released last week, 22 witnesses were identified only by number.

Media companies are expected to intervene, seeking to force the state to release the names, in what boils down to a struggle between the public's right to know and the defendant's right to a fair trial.
Ultimately, it will be up to Judge Kenneth Lester to decide what the public should see. On June 1, Lester will hear arguments on a motion to seal witness information and other evidence.
"The judge here is placed between a rock and a hard place," said Clay Calvert, director of the Marion B. Brechner First Amendment Project at the University of Florida. "Especially in a case that has been politicized so heavily."

.....more at link
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... fety-trial

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I see Websleuths have CLOSED all discussion on this case.

They have not changed over there.

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