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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:11 am 
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PS - Remember Bobby Rush was the congressmen with the dramatic (and comical) display of putting on a hoodie while speaking to congress.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:14 am 
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Hi, kbp! gmta - If the smart people I've been hearing/reading are correct, then so are you: The DOJ is just trying to calm the Trayborg™ with promises of some possible future prosecution. The Trayborg™ are up in arms and Sharpton is trying to keep them inflamed. Sharpton is who the DOJ should be investigating.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:15 am 
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I've read that all evidence was immediately released, including GZ's gun. I've also read that it wasn't. Who knows? Many who are much, much smarter than I am have opined that the DOJ is just trying to calm down the Trayborg™ and have no intention of filing any charges; they know there is no evidence of anything they could pursue. I doubt there is any warrant, and am certain that if there is one, it's even less credible than Corey's PCA.


As soon as Zimmerman was acquitted, the State of Florida, by law, no longer had a valid claim to continue its seizure of Zimmerman's property. That's why Nelson ordered the evidence released.

I think West should go to SPD, SAO, or FDLE - whomever has custody of Zimmerman's property - and demand its release. Then West should file a pleading with whatever court controls the matter (Nelson? DCA? SCOFLA?) to demand its release. Force the State to force the DOJ to produce a legal basis for its "hold".

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:18 am 
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I just came across an article this morning, dated 2012, stating that in 2010, GZ single handedly set on a quest for the prosecution of the racial beating of a homeless man by the name of Ware. Some of the justice he was trying to seek, was against a police officer that actually helped clear him in his trial.

GZ apparently walked neighborhoods, handing out flyers he made, asking for the arrest and the prosecution of the young man (a relative of someone on the police force) for beating Ware.

A GZ family member submitted a letter to the NAACP to this fact. (the family members identity is being withheld).

If this has been discussed, I sincerely apologize, if not, I can link to the article.

I do have a question though...if this is indeed true, why has this not been brought to light, again, via the media, and presented to Mr. Holder as absolute proof that GZ is NOT a racist ?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:23 am 
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As soon as Zimmerman was acquitted, the State of Florida, by law, no longer had a valid claim to continue its seizure of Zimmerman's property. That's why Nelson ordered the evidence released.

I think West should go to SPD, SAO, or FDLE - whomever has custody of Zimmerman's property - and demand its release. Then West should file a pleading with whatever court controls the matter (Nelson? DCA? SCOFLA?) to demand its release. Force the State to force the DOJ to produce a legal basis for its "hold".



Mr. Bennett...

I completely agree with you. The only persons civil rights that are being abused, is GZ's. IMO...he's being profiled. He has not been convicted of any wrong doing, so how can our government treat him as if he has ? SMH


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If this has been discussed, I sincerely apologize, if not, I can link to the article.


Often, over the past year-plus: it's the Sherman Ware case.

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I do have a question though...if this is indeed true, why has this not been brought to light, again, via the media, and presented to Mr. Holder as absolute proof that GZ is NOT a racist ?


That question is rhetorical, right? The Sherman Ware story doesn't fit the narrative, and therefore has been memory-holed.

Sherman Ware's attorney in that case was none other than Scheme Team member Natalie Jackson. Need anything more be said?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:29 am 
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This entire case in a nutshell!
:Gslap :lol at the end of the video above with Congressmen King and Rush, Congressman King said: "A young Hispanic man shot a black man in self defense, was tried by a jury of women, and somehow Bobby Rush thinks it's a white man's fault."

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:31 am 
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chipbennett wrote:

As soon as Zimmerman was acquitted, the State of Florida, by law, no longer had a valid claim to continue its seizure of Zimmerman's property. That's why Nelson ordered the evidence released.

I think West should go to SPD, SAO, or FDLE - whomever has custody of Zimmerman's property - and demand its release. Then West should file a pleading with whatever court controls the matter (Nelson? DCA? SCOFLA?) to demand its release. Force the State to force the DOJ to produce a legal basis for its "hold".


If the evidence hasn't been released, I agree. Now that you mention it, that the defense hasn't said a word about it makes me think it was released, and this "hold" is just smoke for the Trayborg™.

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Yes, gummybear, it's true - Sherman Ware. NastyJac was involved in that case too, so she knew from the start that GZ wasn't who they claimed. The entire GZ family felt very betrayed by her and by the NAACP who they thought/hoped would tell the truth. I suspect their eyes are very open about the BGI now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:34 am 
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:doh ...thanks Chip.

Due to my 20 year (and ongoing) dedication to another notorious murder trial, I haven't kept completely up to date with other. You all have my sincere apologies for my ignorance. I will learn to PM before I post... :95


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gummybear wrote:
I do have a question though...if this is indeed true, why has this not been brought to light, again, via the media, and presented to Mr. Holder as absolute proof that GZ is NOT a racist ?


Yes, this is true. However, after Trayvon was shot, and the BGI decided to use him as the posterboy of all that is wrong with White America and guns, they denied that he had ever done that. I believe Nasty Jac was Sherman Ware's lawyer and she said she denied George was involved. This has been an organized persecution of George from Day 1. :TF


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gummybear wrote:
:doh ...thanks Chip.

Due to my 20 year (and ongoing) dedication to another notorious murder trial, I haven't kept completely up to date with other. You all have my sincere apologies for my ignorance. I will learn to PM before I post... :95


The fact that you didn't know or didn't remember this facet of the case is anecdotal evidence that others are in the same boat. The more info the better. :)

However, I should learn to read ahead before I post cos everything I wrote in reply to your mention of Ware had already been posted (much better!) by Chip! :Gslap

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g'morning, auscitizenmom! :)

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West busts CBS Trayborg™ propaganda:



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g'morning, auscitizenmom! :)


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liesel wrote:
I've read that all evidence was immediately released, including GZ's gun. I've also read that it wasn't. Who knows? Many who are much, much smarter than I am have opined that the DOJ is just trying to calm down the Trayborg™ and have no intention of filing any charges; they know there is no evidence of anything they could pursue. I doubt there is any warrant, and am certain that if there is one, it's even less credible than Corey's PCA.

chipbennett wrote:
As soon as Zimmerman was acquitted, the State of Florida, by law, no longer had a valid claim to continue its seizure of Zimmerman's property. That's why Nelson ordered the evidence released.

I think West should go to SPD, SAO, or FDLE - whomever has custody of Zimmerman's property - and demand its release. Then West should file a pleading with whatever court controls the matter (Nelson? DCA? SCOFLA?) to demand its release. Force the State to force the DOJ to produce a legal basis for its "hold".

...and then announce he really only wants the flashlight to help him see through the BS.


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Greta's legal panel tears up the PCA and covers other issues - post trial, not old clip. Includes clip of RJ saying she deserves a pat on the head for not cursing at "Westin" during trial. (paraphrased) :Gslap


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:Gslap kbp... :Gslap flashlight to see through BS... :lol

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I just discovered that RJ speaks English, Spanish and Hatian Creole....The Hatian Creole could very well explain why she is very hard to understand. Her last name did seem French to me...makes sense.


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