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After Manslaughter

JUSTIFIABLE USE OF DEADLY FORCE

WTF-I just can't comprehend. :wall
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If it's only one confused about the law, maybe the others will be able to explain/show her. We can hope.

Where is self-defense on the form? Are they going in order?


I did post the Jury form .... Today back a page or two :fish


And the jury instructions.

And copies in Trial info thread

TRIAL: PHOTOS, REFERENCE MATERIAL ETC (NO DISCUSSION)
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I spent the whole day away from the case, the waiting is so stressful. I was hoping to come here tonight and see good news. This is not what I expected.
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Yes you did.
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http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... ctions.pdf


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liesel wrote:
If it's only one confused about the law, maybe the others will be able to explain/show her. We can hope.

Where is self-defense on the form? Are they going in order?


It is mentioned a bit in each of the charges but isn't fully explained until after the two charges. Reasonable doubt, etc. is explained after that. At least in the one Kathi Belich has up.
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Rumpole wrote:

I did post the Jury form .... Today back a page or two :fish


And the jury instructions.

And copies in Trial info thread

TRIAL: PHOTOS, REFERENCE MATERIAL ETC (NO DISCUSSION)
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=955&p=51292#p50631

And I'd have looked it up if needed. Lucky for me, it wasn't. :)

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SheStone wrote:

So they might just be going in order of the jury instruction and haven't gotten to self defense yet. Seems odd to me but I do remember Not Guilty was the last one listed.

Thanks, I needed that. :83
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flgirl543 wrote:
I spent the whole day away from the case, the waiting is so stressful. I was hoping to come here tonight and see good news. This is not what I expected.

We don't know anything yet. Could mean anything, at this point. But be careful -- Rumpole has his fish out. ;)

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The jury seems to be leaning towards a compromise, not realizing manslaughter really isn't.
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Yes, thanks for info, SheStone. :)

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As to Hornsby's post on twitter. Of course it would be a question on the second part. After all we all know TM is dead which is the first part. "Duh" :98
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I think the confusion stems from the fact

Bernie has no case
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The jury simply are not considering that simple fact.

The State did not present ANY theory of what happened, therefore GZ's presumption of innocence has not even been challenged.. there is NOTHING to decide?

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I think these jury instructions are bass ackword. Reasonable doubt, Burden of Proof, etc. one would think should be first, then self defense, then 2nd degree Murder, then Manslaughter.

At the very least I would expect Reasonable doubt, Burden of Proof, etc. to be first.
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Back.... Weasel :(

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SheStone wrote:
As to Hornsby's post on twitter. Of course it would be a question on the second part. After all we all know TM is dead which is the first part. "Duh" :98


He's a joker... Here's a tweet from at least an hour ago:


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