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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:13 pm 
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Dennis Root on Piers Morgan tonight.


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Maltese Mama wrote:

My thinking is that it was an emotionally draining day and now the reality has really hit them that a man's freedom and two families will be forever affected by their decision. I'm sure they need some time to de-stress and come back fresh in the morning with clear minds.

That makes perfect sense. They should be able de-stress before they acquit. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:15 pm 
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Maltese Mama wrote:

No...it'll take quite some time.

I don't think I'll sleep well also. Image

An appeal of the verdict will take some time, but if Nelson denies a motion to have GZ stay on bond pending appeal, getting that overturned or quashed can move very quickly.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:17 pm 
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Jordan wrote:
Who was that rotund sweathog with the Rodney Dangerfield bulging eyeballs sitting behind the defense?


LOL....glad you mentioned her, I wondered about who she was as well.


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thehoff71 wrote:
Regarding breaking early: I wouldn't like to speculate, but it would seem to me they wanted to double check to see if there was anything in the evidence they missed and are ready to render a verdict first thing. But Juries are unpredictable..everything from deeply divided to B29 is holding out in a 5-1 vote have been thrown around. We'll see tomorrow.

I tend to agree with you on all points, mostly that juries are unpredictable. But this jury, when given a choice, has almost always opted for pushing on through. Then they asked to leave before 6 p.m.? No one seemed to be expecting them to want to leave that early, so it doesn't seem likely that family visits were scheduled, kwim? So why were they in such a rush today of all days? It could be that they'll come back in the morning, have a last discussion to make sure they're all in agreement still, then acquit.

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I don't know if any of these are thoughts of the jury, but they did come to my mind.

If they have basically already come to a verdict they may be waiting until tomorrow morning to early afternoon to announce the verdict for multiple reasons.

1. To make sure people know they took it seriously and didn't rush to judgment.

2. If they did decide on Not Guilty by waiting until morning they may damper possible riots or at least lessen them since riots seem to happen more in the heat of the moment and worse at night.


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Loved the guest att. on NG tonight who told her she was a subtle as a cement brick. Nancy cut his mic.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:21 pm 
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liesel wrote:
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But remember, as MOM put it, he and West are not young public defenders. They know what to do and will use every available method to keep GZ out of jail (where people go first), much less prison.


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It's a little late for that.

No, if GZ isn't acquitted, the defense goes to a panel of judges who aren't crushing on the prosecution and who will read an entire case instead of just the head notes. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:23 pm 
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chipbennett wrote:
With the jury adjourning deliberations for the evening, and a lack of desire to speculate about the unknowable, I think this is where I bid everyone a good evening. :)

I understand, Chip but...

"Speculation about the unknowable" is something forums do. :)

You could look at as "proposing a null hypothesis"... to be tested when data is collected :)

or......

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SheStone wrote:
I don't know if any of these are thoughts of the jury, but they did come to my mind.

If they have basically already come to a verdict they may be waiting until tomorrow morning to early afternoon to announce the verdict for multiple reasons.

1. To make sure people know they took it seriously and didn't rush to judgment.

2. If they did decide on Not Guilty by waiting until morning they may damper possible riots or at least lessen them since riots seem to happen more in the heat of the moment and worse at night.


3. They know that the dinner back at the hotel tonight is Lobster Thermadore

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:27 pm 
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liesel wrote:
Hi, Maltese Mama! :86

Think about it - if you were on this jury, and you had taken an oath, and MOM asked you to go through the evidence, and you had been looking at (so to speak) TM™'s family for a month, would you feel good about delivering a verdict within minutes of being charged?

So far, I'm ok. Again, I'm still hopeful they're coming back in the morning to acquit, after packing and cleaning up. Remember in the Anthony case they did that; went home, came back in the morning "dressed up"?


Hi liesel! :86

I would show respect by not coming out for at least several hours, but... I DO remember the Ant case... that's what worries me!!! :95

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I tend to agree with you on all points, mostly that juries are unpredictable. But this jury, when given a choice, has almost always opted for pushing on through. Then they asked to leave before 6 p.m.? No one seemed to be expecting them to want to leave that early, so it doesn't seem likely that family visits were scheduled, kwim? So why were they in such a rush today of all days? It could be that they'll come back in the morning, have a last discussion to make sure they're all in agreement still, then acquit.


liesel: this post makes me feel better. Just might be it. They needed to see something in evidence to be sure, all agreed. They decided to sleep on it and if they are all in agreement tomorrow, render a not guilty.


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SheStone wrote:

So it wasn't an autopsy photo when TM's Mother and the rest left the court room it was just more shenanigans.


Yup, it's all been shenanigans, the entire narrative.


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Rumpole wrote:
Don't make me have to question you in Rump's office!!

:Gslap

Then I plead the 5th. ;)

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SheStone wrote:
I don't know if any of these are thoughts of the jury, but they did come to my mind.

If they have basically already come to a verdict they may be waiting until tomorrow morning to early afternoon to announce the verdict for multiple reasons.

1. To make sure people know they took it seriously and didn't rush to judgment.

2. If they did decide on Not Guilty by waiting until morning they may damper possible riots or at least lessen them since riots seem to happen more in the heat of the moment and worse at night.

Rumpole wrote:

3. They know that the dinner back at the hotel tonight is Lobster Thermadore


4. They didn't want to have to go home tonight after their long day and have to make dinner. (Especially the woman with 8 kids)


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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... 2865.story


Social media 'blackout' buzz


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Maltese Mama wrote:
That's never going to happen here. :Gslap

I was about to leave this Banana Republic yesterday when they asked for 3rd Degree/Child Abuse!


You are too good for the place, Mal.

Go back to being a "Joisy Goil" :26

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Thanks for the link Liesel

Hornsby provides good analysis (MOSTLY)

He has been on WS blog radio before.

Tricia Griffith at Websleuths has so much more class than Jamie Baker at JQ. (or Amraann) :lol

And she has a brain :cool

I seem to recall Tricia was leaning toward the Traybot side early on... but WS had the good sense to shut down the Zimmerman case discussion.. since it was divisive. They opened up the GZ forum again once the trial started.. and it seems that Tricia has absorbed the facts of the case and sees that George is not guilty.


WS have not hidden the GZ forum away in shame like JQ.... and certainly have not taken the bizarre step of closing the entire site off from public view.

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flgirl543 wrote:
liesel: this post makes me feel better. Just might be it. They needed to see something in evidence to be sure, all agreed. They decided to sleep on it and if they are all in agreement tomorrow, render a not guilty.


Good. I'm glad. :54

Also remember that BDLR tried to strike two of the jurors. I'm sure he had good reason for thinking they were not sympathetic to him. I said it earlier, and I'll say it again for those who missed it: I think he's going to want to :3 (strike) all six after they acquit. ;)

One of the jurors, iirc, her son and husband use guns. She wouldn't want them going to jail for defending themselves. Another used to have a ccw.

Bottom line - we should all be sending prayers and good thoughts.
No need to get distracted from that until we have good cause, kwim? :NN1
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