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liesel wrote:
Quick -- someone check on kbp - don't know if kbp passed out from lack of caffeine or got lost getting to the coffee pot! ;)

An amazing coincidence that my post reply to yours followed the one you mentioned me in!

This has my full attention, never expecting MOM's strategy. I actually anticipated he would start by showing Bernie's lies, but then that might have been Bernie's goal using so d*** many lies in his closing!

One thing I noted was how MOM did so well at reducing the time between when his call with NEN ended and when the neighbor (?on corner Laugh?) started her call to 911, having testified it took her about 25 seconds. Guy will have to tell them his witness has no cluehow long it took, she was INCORRECT, they must presume, assume, connect the dots.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:56 am 
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9:45 a.m.
O’Mara shows the jurors the animation.

He says there are questions about where Martin approached, whether from a bush or down the sidewalk. He asks them to look at how the event may have happened at the “T” intersection and progressed from there.

O’Mara has trouble playing the animation, but gets it to play.

He explains the circled items of evidence match where they were found at the scene and Lauer’s 911 call helped them match up the timing.

He says they used figures to show what Good saw.

O’Mara says the figures show the angle they believe the two were in at the time of the gunshot. He mentions Dr. Di Maio’s testimony.

He says after the shot Zimmerman got on top to move out Martin’s hands.

The next viewpoint is shown from a perspective similar to what people see and from Mora’s vantage.

9:35 a.m.

He asks how there can be a level of second-degree murder when he doesn’t know the person.

He tells the jury he put in the weather reports for the day and that it was raining and the wind was at 6.8 mph.

He says the question is if Zimmerman was running after or tracking Martin, but the wind was up.

O’Mara says they must focus where the ill-will, spite and hatred comes in.

He says thinking Zimmerman ran is a presumption and assumption and he doesn’t want them to do that.

O’Mara says the point where Zimmerman asks for the responding officer to call him is where they might say he showed he was going to track down Martin and shoot him.

He asks which witness told the jury Lauer’s house lights were on that night.

He says the state wants them to presume, assume and connect the dots.

Zimmerman said he went to Retreat View Circle and came back with the “baby” flashlight because the other one wasn’t working, O’Mara says.

He says there isn’t one shred of evidence to suggest otherwise that Zimmerman was going back to his truck.

He says Lauer heard the noise out toward the “T” intersection. He says Manalo heard it off to the right. He says Surdyka said it started outside her window.

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I'm such a girl - I have tears in my eyes looking at that photo of West. The compassion, the urgency...the toll this has taken on so many! Smh

G'morning, CinnamonToast! :54

It's a great photo... and it's been an emotional roller coaster all through this trial.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:58 am 
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Desktop, daddy, child here is 6 YO and operating on headphones ...waited for MOM to set up displays!

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Desperate times call for desperate measures... I'd have been getting coffee from Daddy. ;)

Sorry, I'm "daddy" and the child is asleep. Thankfully there were a few breaks in the closing.


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O’Mara shows a diagram of the scene.

“He had four minutes and he told Rachel Jeantel that he was running,” O’Mara says.

He asks if the state showed what Martin was doing in those four minutes.

Judge Nelson grants a recess for 15 minutes.

9:55 a.m.
O’Mara says the animation is just that and somewhat made up, but it does give and idea and is consistent with evidence presented.

He asks them not to connect the dots if they haven’t been connected beyond a reasonable doubt by the state.

It is interesting as well about the phone calls and what Martin was doing.

He says they know he was on the phone with Jeantel and she said he was running.

He asks them to keep in mind the time 7:11:47 because if they look at Lauer’s phone call and when she heard what she heard, and then called at 7:16:11.

Before they take a break he says they will sit and not talk, while he times them. Time on the clock reads 9:50 a.m.

"That's how long Trayvon Martin had to run, about four minutes," O'Mara resumes.

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So sick of Jackwagon Junior saying, "today may be George Zimmeman's last day of freedom". (As if living in literal fear for his life, with a GPS leash, under a curfew is somehow "freedom"?)

How about, "today may be the last day of George Zimmerman's wrongful incarceration"?

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It might not be unless all the information we now know about Traythug, Traymom, and Traydad gets out "there" so people find out about it. :TF

I sure hope it gets reported...

And I hope the acquittal (praying please) gets reported properly too, no nonsense, explaining why it was correct.

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This is extremely articulate and extremely powerful so far.

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Nice time for a break as well, let the amount of time TM had sink into the jury for a bit.


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I wonder if not only the jury is shaking their heads thinking about what the prosecution tried to pull off but also smiling because MoM is making so easy for them to come back with a "Not Guilty on all count" verdict. :91

I have to think that not only are the Trayborgs in denial but their splodey heads are swelling :WW


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liesel wrote:
it's been an emotional roller coaster all through this trial.

Glad you said that. I have been in tears at least once every day since this started. And, the more I found out about George and Shelley and the family, the more I care about them. And, I just adore West. He has been so good to George. That counts a lot with me. :89


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So sick of Jackwagon Junior saying, "today may be George Zimmeman's last day of freedom". (As if living in literal fear for his life, with a GPS leash, under a curfew is somehow "freedom"?)

How about, "today may be the last day of George Zimmerman's wrongful incarceration"?

I'm just plain sick of jackwagon jr. (no caps) and agree with your point. However, it's possible that Nelson would continue bail pending appeal. I think it's more likely than not she will because of the danger to GZ and the likelihood of a successful appeal.

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kbp wrote:
Desktop, daddy, child here is 6 YO and operating on headphones ...waited for MOM to set up displays!

kbp wrote:
An amazing coincidence that my post reply to yours followed the one you mentioned me in!

This has my full attention, never expecting MOM's strategy. I actually anticipated he would start by showing Bernie's lies, but then that might have been Bernie's goal using so d*** many lies in his closing!

One thing I noted was how MOM did so well at reducing the time between when his call with NEN ended and when the neighbor (?on corner Laugh?) started her call to 911, having testified it took her about 25 seconds. Guy will have to tell them his witness has no cluehow long it took, she was INCORRECT, they must presume, assume, connect the dots.


Thanks for proving Rumpole correct when he accuses me of reading too fast! :Gslap Here, it would have been Daddy getting coffee for me under such dire circumstances. ;)

The neighbor is Lauer, and yes, I agree. And I'm also very impressed with MOM. I wrote last night that I didn't think MOM could possibly live up to my hopes, but so far, so good. That 4 minutes I did not see coming at all.

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O'Mara: "The guy who had hatred, ill will, and spite was the one who didn't go home"

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