Thanks, Mimi

The Jury Instructions are posted:


Zimmerman Trial Information

http://www.flcourts18.org/page.php?136


State v. Zimmerman (2012-CF-001083-A)

It is the goal of the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit to ensure that the media and public are accommodated to the best of the Court's abilities during special interest/high profile proceedings. Below you will find media advisories and public record documents pertaining to State v. Zimmerman (2012-CF-001083-A). Please continue to check this website for updates. Documents will be posted as they are made available for public distribution.

Final Jury Instructions
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... ctions.pdf

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Yes, kbp -- that is what has drawn me to this case, as you so powerfully stated/quoted:

"...Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me."

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Thanks, Rumpole. I'll wait for some kind poster to do the English to liesel translation.

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Thanks to new member Palm305 for a couple of links


Analysis: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why
ANALYSIS by DAN ABRAMS
July 7, 2013

I drew a legal conclusion on "Good Morning America" Saturday that would have surprised the Dan Abrams who covered the George Zimmerman case leading up to, and shortly after, his arrest.

Now that the prosecution's case against Zimmerman is in, as a legal matter, I just don't see how a jury convicts him of second degree murder or even manslaughter in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

So what happened? How can an armed man who shot and killed an unarmed teen after being told by the police that he didn't need to keep following him, likely be found not guilty of those crimes?

...more at link
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerm ... d9swtigws9

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Georgie - Zimfan

Sing along.................

Georgie was protecting his own neighborhood
Neighborhood watch he did the best that he could

Trayvon was wondering around, acting just like he was stoned
Georgie tried to keep him in sight, until he got punched in the nose
Trayvon mounted Georgie and then, beat his head on the cement

Trayvon wasn't practicing no stand your ground
Classic self defense is what the jury found

Bashing the back of his head, and punching him right in the nose
He screamed for someone to come help , Johnny then called 911
When John left Georgie's heart it just sank, He could have used some purple drank

Georgie.... I wish you were a neighbor of mine.
Georgie.... I wish you were a neighbor of mine.

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Read more at TalkLeft.

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Read more at Legal Insurrection.

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Thanks to Princss6

Hmmm... Jeralyn of TalkLeft is concerned that BDLR's bizarre and bad performance today may have been a feint... and that the state has more tricks they plan to play through Guy's final summation.

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Are there any limits to closing argument rebuttal scope?

i.e. is it like a re-direct, that is limited by the scope of cross-examination? Or does the State have free rein to say anything they want in rebuttal?

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So they'll finally present evidence of a crime?

They'll have free rein, much more so than many other judges would allow, imo.

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We can always count on you for at least a giggle...

What they'll do is try to create the illusion that there was a crime, make emotional pleas for justice, and try to make the jurors feel responsible for making the "right" decision, imo.

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Objections are kind of frowned on during opening and closing arguments. I doubt MOM has done that very many times during his entire career. Kind of like MOM said in 30 years of practice he had never filed a motion for discovery sanctions but filed six in this case.

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Oh yeah, and that the jury are racists if they don't convict. Not directly stated, mind you, just implied. Like the MLK paraphrase about #8 today.

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Is it Legal?

liesel, do your tools allow YOU to pull up posts by a specific user? Boards I've monitored always allowed it.



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Branca thoroughly deconstructed BDLR's close in his piece linked above. He's not worried about Guy. He thinks it will be a re-Root. However, that may be a bit of overconfidence, imo. With Root, Guy was constrained to facts, truth, logical inferences. He won't be so constrained in his close.

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Evidence of his personal habits or desires?