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What an unbeliveable night. Cooper was fantastic...I am amazed how late the pro offers went. Nelson is in an panic. What an amazing defense team GZ has....to see those paralegals sitting there behind George and doing what they need to do, without an expression of exhasperation is truly amazing. This defense team has done whatever it takes....


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What an unbeliveable night. Cooper was fantastic...I am amazed how late the pro offers went. Nelson is in an panic. What an amazing defense team GZ has....to see those paralegals sitting there behind George and doing what they need to do, without an expression of exhasperation is truly amazing. This defense team has done whatever it takes....

Exception for a few subpoenas they missed from the start.


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So, what were the end-of-the-night fireworks I'm seeing everyone mentioning? What happened right at the end? Besides yet-more-reversible-error of not allowing the text messages into evidence, it sounds like Nelson lost a bit of control of her courtroom, or something?

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I'm exhausted....was that Corey sitting on the state side all my her onsie at one point. sure looked like her as she saw her case blowing in the wind.


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I'm speechless! Now I've heard it all...Trayvon could have been fighting a little girl or Andre the Giant...fight could be code word...little kid could have used Taryvon phone and sent those messages...

For the record Andre the Giant died in 1993.... So we can exclude him.


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Williams v. State, 110 So. 2d 654 (Fla. 1959)

Remember, Hornsby suggested reverse, meaning failure to allow something in.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:27 pm 
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LondoJowo wrote:

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Take a look at the reply I got to this same post in Anandtech.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.ph ... ount=63055

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What a truly not-classy jerk. That's why you're much better off here - much, much better class of posters here, apparently. Trayborg™ upset at the truth coming out attacks your wife, amiright? I hope you laughed at what was clearly mean to be insulting and baiting.

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I would recall Rachel on the fight issue. The state tried to say that her testimony about the fight was weeks apart from the texts.

Weeks? Like that is too remote in time? Laughable. And I agree, I hope they recall #8 and call La-whatever her name is.

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So, what were the end-of-the-night fireworks I'm seeing everyone mentioning? What happened right at the end? Besides yet-more-reversible-error of not allowing the text messages into evidence, it sounds like Nelson lost a bit of control of her courtroom, or something?

Nelson appeared to put a lot of reasoning for likely denying the texts in the last case law she read, but I missed the case name before she read it. It dealt with allowing emails and electronic data in if the name ID'd the sender. I'm sure there are probably cases that tied someone to a phone that person had access to but was in the name of somebody else.


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Okay, sometimes things are more simple than they seem.

"If" the Judge were to let in Connor to testify about the texts, etc., that would turn this trial on it's head.

Maybe it's a simple matter of Judge Nelson not having the fortitude.

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I say then Rachel's whole testimony be thrown out since it was never authenticated she was the one on the phone. As a matter of fact, she said someone else was using her phone. What proof did the state provide it was her? Just because phone was in her name proves nothing according to Nelson's logic.


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kbp wrote:
I would recall Rachel on the fight issue. The state tried to say that her testimony about the fight was weeks apart from the texts.

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Weeks? Like that is too remote in time? Laughable. And I agree, I hope they recall #8 and call La-whatever her name is.

FYI: for any that missed it, the testimony from Rachel I believe was from the deposition.


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chipbennett wrote:
So, what were the end-of-the-night fireworks I'm seeing everyone mentioning? What happened right at the end? Besides yet-more-reversible-error of not allowing the text messages into evidence, it sounds like Nelson lost a bit of control of her courtroom, or something?

She didn't rule yet on the texts or the animation.

You really have to see the replay video. There is no way to accurately describe it. West was very passionate in his arguments about the texts. Very. And went through the whole discovery thing, the impossible hours, etc. He even said he didn't know how much longer he could keep up this pace. (See Hornsby tweet above about his complaint about the pace.) There was more. There was even Guy asking for an apology from West!

MOM had said he couldn't possibly be ready in the morning because of how late they went tonight, etc. Judge ended up leaving in a huff with West still talking and MOM trying to wave him off. Seriously - watch the video.

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I say then Rachel's whole testimony be thrown out since it was never authenticated she was the one on the phone. As a matter of fact, she said someone else was using her phone. What proof did the state provide it was her? Just because phone was in her name proves nothing according to Nelson's logic.

What constitution are they under in Florida?


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flgirl543 wrote:
I'm speechless! Now I've heard it all...Trayvon could have been fighting a little girl or Andre the Giant...fight could be code word...little kid could have used Taryvon phone and sent those messages...

For the record Andre the Giant died in 1993.... So we can exclude him.

Thanks for the much needed smile.

West was brilliant pointing out LE took a year to get to those texts after she said a 7 year old could do it. :Gslap And then she unbelievably replied, "Maybe they knew the password." Yeah, right, cos you go to the trouble of setting up a 2nd password to keep people out of your things and give the pw to all of your "several" half-siblings!

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flgirl543 wrote:
I say then Rachel's whole testimony be thrown out since it was never authenticated she was the one on the phone. As a matter of fact, she said someone else was using her phone. What proof did the state provide it was her? Just because phone was in her name proves nothing according to Nelson's logic.

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What constitution are they under in Florida?

Which county?


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flgirl543 wrote:
I say then Rachel's whole testimony be thrown out since it was never authenticated she was the one on the phone. As a matter of fact, she said someone else was using her phone. What proof did the state provide it was her? Just because phone was in her name proves nothing according to Nelson's logic.

She testified she was on the phone and the phone records seem to back her up. Sorry.

The problem here is the defense asked for more time to authenticate the phone info by finding and calling the recipients, for example, or in the alternative, they asked for the authentication requirements to be relaxed. Denied, of course. With the extra password and that phone being identified by the state as TM™'s, well, I agree with West, that should be enough authentication unless the state can bring someone in to dispute it.

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Goodnight all...I'll catch up in the morrow.


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