It is currently Mon May 19, 2025 10:30 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 2620 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 ... 131  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:26 am
Posts: 381
Okay O'Mara set straight on that issue of the arm blocking or hand grabbing.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:54 pm
Posts: 659
Yes what he said was that he would not have been able to get him to submit with an arm bar from that position.

Now if the prosecution would have actually watched the reenactment, they would know that he demonstrated that he tried to use his armpit to stop Trayvon from grabbing the gun. Not a wrist lock, not an arm bar, not any type of martial arts movement but the same thing I do when my wife tries to tickle me under my arm, squeeze my arm down to try to hold the hand.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:11 pm
Posts: 1376
Location: Arizona
The state continues to be pathetic. GZ did not learn MMA. End of story. Weasel STFU. You're getting no where.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
flareon wrote:

I agree, plus I would imagine he felt guilt. He knew that his son didn't want to be there and he left him there by himself. Couple that with the way he behaved when he found out that Mr. Martin didn't return home would make anyone feel like they weren't the best parent.

Hi, flareon. Good point - anyone with any humanity would have to feel guilt and shame. Traydad™'s first thought was that TM™ was in jail. I feel terrible if I think one of mine figuratively got into the cookie jar when it turns out they didn't. (Yes, I always apologize for misunderstanding and/or accusing.)

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:23 pm 
Offline
ADMIN
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:30 pm
Posts: 57118
Location: Pomeroy's Wine Bar
3:20 p.m.
Mantei asks about the difficulty for the person on the bottom to strike upwards.

Pollock says grabbing someone’s arm isn’t practical and wouldn’t work.

He says if you’re on your back you can’t arm lock someone on top of you, but you would have to be extremely skilled, which he says Zimmerman is not.

Mantei asks about striking.

Pollock says the beginning will be about footwork, body posturing and then about the jab.

Mantei asks about positioning for the hands.

Pollock says it is taught.

He says Zimmerman went two or three times a week for grappling for a number of months, and then his schedule changed, so he went to boxing classes.

Mantei finishes questioning.

O’Mara redirects.

He asks if Zimmerman was proficient in what he was learning.

Pollock says no, but Zimmerman was doing well with the stretches and work.

Pollock says chokes and arm locks were not something Zimmerman could pull off.

O’Mara asks about the description of Zimmerman as soft.

Pollock says he lost a lot of weight but had a long way to go with more body fat to lose and muscle to gain. “He was by no means ready for being a competitive athlete,” Pollock says.

Pollock is excused.

The defense asks for a break. Court is in recess for 15 minutes.

3:10 p.m.
O’Mara asks about the ways to end a fight and if screaming for help works.

Pollock says in a competive situation you can verbally tap out.

O’Mara finishes questioning.

Richard Mantei cross examines.

He asks about the phrase that the gym is the most complete fight gym in the world.

Pollock says other gyms have updated but he used to have the most equipment.

Mantei asks about Zimmerman taking a couple months off and if he knows if Zimmerman worked out somewhere else.

Pollock says he doesn’t know, but his facility is complete and is accessible.

Pollock says he would tell Zimmerman to come in for more training.

He says Zimmerman was between 250 and 260 pounds and would’ve lost 50 to 80 pounds.

Pollock says he didn’t do a body fat analysis for Zimmerman.

Mantei asks about the “first blow advantage.”

Pollock says he doesn’t teach strategy to beginners.

Mantei asks about grappling and if some things like cuts and scrapes can happen.

Mantei asks about the change of position maneuvers.

“A one minute round can seem like eternity if you’re not in condition for it,” Pollock says.

_________________
Image Do not go gentle into that good night.
___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
chipbennett wrote:
Gym manager just testified that Zimmerman lost a lot of weight, but never progressed - at all - as a fighter; also, that Zimmerman's focus at the gym was to lose weight.


_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:27 pm 
Offline
ADMIN
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:30 pm
Posts: 57118
Location: Pomeroy's Wine Bar
Tweet posted by liesel


_________________
Image Do not go gentle into that good night.
___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
liesel wrote:
Hey, let's take up a collection to get Pollock to show each of the prosecution team, Corey first, what GZ went through at the hands of TM™ -- who's in?

kbp wrote:
What did Pollock do wrong? Imagine yourself being forced to mount Corey or Nelson ...extreme punishment without due process!

:Gslap :Gslap :lol
You're probably right - we'd never collect enough money for that.

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
Rumpole wrote:
Image

I was close - Rumpole has a violin smiley. :) Now we can copy it from his post. ;)

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
chipbennett wrote:
Gym Manager: "A one-minute round can feel like an eternity if you're not physically prepared for it."

(Sort of like a 40-second beat-down while screaming for help...?)

Yes, glad that got before the jury. Didn't someone else testify to a similar fact?

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:35 pm
Posts: 1056
I'm baffled why Mantei did not ask if pre-fight training included calling an opponent an 'azzhole f****** punk' to pump up the ill will.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:57 pm
Posts: 169
liesel wrote:
Hi, flareon. Good point - anyone with any humanity would have to feel guilt and shame. Traydad™'s first thought was that TM™ was in jail. I feel terrible if I think one of mine figuratively got into the cookie jar when it turns out they didn't. (Yes, I always apologize for misunderstanding and/or accusing.)


Hi. I always thought that his first thought that Mr. Martin had been arrested spoke volumes about the downward spiral the son was on. That isn't the first thought of any parent I know and I think it shows that he was aware of his son's darker thoughts.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:41 pm 
Offline
ADMIN
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:30 pm
Posts: 57118
Location: Pomeroy's Wine Bar
Back in time for a quick......


DRINK :63

_________________
Image Do not go gentle into that good night.
___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:35 pm
Posts: 1056
Side bar before every defense witness.
Bernie & Nelson working hard to be on the same plan?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:44 pm 
Offline
ADMIN
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:30 pm
Posts: 57118
Location: Pomeroy's Wine Bar
Rumpole wrote:
Image


liesel wrote:
I was close - Rumpole has a violin smiley. :) Now we can copy it from his post. ;)



Mal is THE Smiley Queen with over 12,000 smileys... we cant have them all in the smiley pages.

But she does have a smiley for EVERYTHING

(She works so rarely gets to play live trials) :cry

_________________
Image Do not go gentle into that good night.
___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
:Gslap Some (likely) Trayborg™ posted a question to Scheaffer and Warmoth of WFTV asking if GZ can be retried because of ineffective prosecuting attorney. :Gslap

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:52 pm 
Offline
ADMIN
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:30 pm
Posts: 57118
Location: Pomeroy's Wine Bar
I HOPE... the jury just imagine TM as a big thug.. similar in stature to Tracy

_________________
Image Do not go gentle into that good night.
___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
SheStone wrote:


Except of course as I recall GZ didn't pin TM's arms until after he shot TM and got out from underneath.

Right, and what Serino, not GZ, described as a "wrist lock" when TM™ for GZ's gun.

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:34 am
Posts: 892
Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Tracy Martin now on the stand.

_________________
"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook." - 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 2620 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 ... 131  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 30 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group