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11:42 a.m.
“All I know is his body was at scene for some period of time,” Dr. Bao says.

West asks if he has any idea of what was supposed to have happened.

Dr. Bao says he only knows he was shot and dead.

West asks if he did the autopsy without information from what happened the day before.

Dr. Bao says he only has the notes he has and has no recollection of the day of the shooting.

He says he tries

Judge Nelson says only one person can speak at a time. She asks for West to allow Dr. Bao to answer and Dr. Bao to wait.

West and Dr. Bao speak at the same time.

West asks for the question to be read back because it was a yes or no.

Dr. Bao says he needs to explain to the jury why he can’t remember the autopsy.

Judge Nelson asks him to stop speaking so West can ask the next question.

West asks if his testimony today relies on the autopsy report.

Dr. Bao confirms and says the photos, too.

West asks what point the body is seen.

Dr. Bao answers.

West asks to interrupt. De la Rionda objects.

Judge Nelson asks for only one person to speak.

West says he would like to ask a more specific question.

West asks at what point he sees the body. He points out where the report says the body is viewed unclothed.

Dr. Bao says he was there the whole time. The body was received in plastic bag, which they opened and removed his clothes.

11:35 a.m.
West asks to walk through the steps taken performing the autopsy.

He asks about the technicians assisting with the autopsy.

Dr. Bao says one helped to write and the other helped to put evidence together.

West asks about the preliminary inspection and if plastic bags were around Martin’s hands.

Dr. Bao confirms there were none, just the body bag.

He says plastic bags cannot be used, but standard practice is to use paper bag.

West asks about Martin’s body remaining at the scene for three hours.

Dr. Bao says he doesn’t know.

West asks if he has the notes from the investigator.

Dr. Bao says yes and looks for them.

He says the notes are not his or his opinion, so he can only read them.

He says she wrote she got there at 9:44 p.m.

Dr. Bao tells West he is under oath and cannot give wrong information.

West asks him to assume the event occurred at 7:15 p.m. and the jury can sort out the time.

West asks based upon her notes, she arrived about 2.5 hours after the event and left at about 10:10 p.m.

Dr. Bao says he doesn’t see that. West approaches and points out the note for Dr. Bao.

11:25 a.m.
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11:54 a.m.
West says he would like a copy of Dr. Bao's notes and asks for time to do it. Judge Nelson breaks for lunch until 1 p.m.

11:51 a.m.
West asks who took the autopsy photos.

Dr. Bao says it was one of the technicians.

He says he doesn’t remember what he was doing at the time the clothing was removed, but he was there.

West asks what happens to the clothing once removed from the body.

He says he would pack them in a paper bag to give to the police department.

West asks if that is what happened.

“Should be,” Dr. Bao says, adding that he can’t remember.

West asks if wet clothing should be packaged in paper bag.

Dr. Bao says they let them dry.

He says he does not remember what happened beyond his notes for the case.

West asks if it would be a violation of protocol to put a wet shirt in a plastic bag.

Dr. Bao says the only plastic bag was the body bag.

He says if anyone does that they would be gone the next day and fired because it is very basic.

West asks where the shoes are.

Dr. Bao says he doesn’t know where they are now.

He says he spents hundreds of hours reviewing photos and notes. He says he doesn’t believe anyone can remember what happened from two years ago.

West asks to see what Dr. Bao is reading from.

Dr. Bao says before the testimony he spent hours typing answers to potential questions. He says he prefers no one see them.

Judge Nelson says both attorneys are entitled to see them.

West asks to see all the notes he prepared for his testimony today.

De la Rionda asks to see them, also.

West suggests a copy be made.

Dr. Bao says they are his notes.

Judge Nelson says counsel can sit down to look at them and return them to Dr. Bao.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:09 pm 
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A personal-favorite highlight of Bao's testimony thus far: "A person cannot remember something from two years ago. (I have studied memory... blah blah blah)"

The State really knows how to implode its own case. Their expert ME just sunk their "Zimmerman is lying about knowing about SYG" battleship.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:09 pm 
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taurus wrote:
Course the Traybots are exhaulting in Bao's performance...

This is sickening.


Patience...........wait till this blows up in their (Nelson/BDLR/Trayborgs) face and then watch them twist and squirm :98 :wall :doh :41 :59 :stamp :94


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liesel wrote:
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"Quote or paraphrase just the content of the tweet." ...


That was exactly what I did, except for adding quotation marks before and after to make it obvious that those words were someone else's work and that I was not trying to take credit for them.

I did not use HTML quote tags, is it to that you object?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:11 pm 
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Okay...actions like the ME is displaying, gives me questions:

How much pressure has been placed on him from higher ups?
Is there a reason why TMs wet clothes were put into plastic and not paper?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:12 pm 
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unitron wrote:

Yes, but his narrative has nothing to do with whether it's good for the state or the defense.

It seems to me that Bao wants to tell it his way and in a way that favors the state. He won't let even the state interfere with his mission. He may be more arrogant than BDLR.

Being so combative with the defense does not make him look neutral. He may have visions of "Dr. Bao, Medical Examiner" tv show and believes making himself the hero of this case would help him achieve it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:13 pm 
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unitron wrote:

That was exactly what I did, except for adding quotation marks before and after to make it obvious that those words were someone else's work and that I was not trying to take credit for them.

I did not use HTML quote tags, is it to that you object?

I am so very sorry. I'll go back and edit to make myself clear. I was using your exactly right post to illustrate to others how it should be done.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:15 pm 
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Puzzler wrote:
Okay...actions like the ME is displaying, gives me questions:

How much pressure has been placed on him from higher ups?
Is there a reason why TMs wet clothes were put into plastic and not paper?


Obviously the clothes were not placed in the drying room either. All ME offices have them. They have to have them for wet clothing evidence.


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I can see it now...A new TV show on HDLN...featuring Dr, Perper and Dr. Bao esplanin..err...explaining.....wait....let me check my notes.


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seeing_eye wrote:
Is there any proof that this ME has testified in court before?

He testified he has and he's the ME, so it makes sense he would.

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I am listening to two or three women bash another woman? bet that they don't realize that the sound feed is still on. I also bet the catfight has just begun in this one. LMAO :slap


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Who knew... there were so many really shonky witnesses, ready to testify falsely... and they are ALL in Seminole County :eek

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chipbennett wrote:
A personal-favorite highlight of Bao's testimony thus far: "A person cannot remember something from two years ago. (I have studied memory... blah blah blah)"

The State really knows how to implode its own case. Their expert ME just sunk their "Zimmerman is lying about knowing about SYG" battleship.

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I hope the jurors pick up on that. I don't think the defense can use it at close because Bao is not court (or likely otherwise) qualified as an expert in memory. But there may be another way to get the info before the jury - like asking Bao a question. State will object but question will be there with obvious answer, kwim? ;)

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chipbennett wrote:
A personal-favorite highlight of Bao's testimony thus far: "A person cannot remember something from two years ago. (I have studied memory... blah blah blah)"

The State really knows how to implode its own case. Their expert ME just sunk their "Zimmerman is lying about knowing about SYG" battleship.

Good point Chip :51

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I am listening to two or three women bash another woman? bet that they don't realize that the sound feed is still on. I also bet the catfight has just begun in this one. LMAO :slap

Details, man! I want details! And a link! ;) If it's not about GZ trial, please post on chat thread in my sig. TIA!

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Any bookies in the house?

What's the over/under on Bao being frog-marched out of the courtroom, after having his notes confiscated by the court, pending a perjury and/or contempt charge?

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