This is a State witness; the State is still (pretending to be) putting on their case presentation.

That said: Osterman had the same exchange with BDLR.

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MOM is getting a verbal re-enactment. WTH Bernie called this witness for, beyond impeachment to follow cross, I am clueless.

Bigboi has vanished from the twitter sewer.... only did one or two tweets first two days of Jury selection.. then nothing since.
She has NOT honoured her VOW to tweet the time that GZ'd curfew ends every day until he is locked up again. She simply gave up.
She has also gone from CW and JQ (as Trixiemay)

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12:00 p.m.
Osterman says he drove Shellie to the police department and waited in the lobby until he was released.

He says Zimmerman seemed stunned and he immediately tried to reassure Shellie, who started sobbing.

Osterman describes Zimmerman as wide-eyed. He says he used his previous knowledge of Zimmerman to base his observation.

He says he thinks she went into “nurse-mode” because she was a nursing student.

Osterman says Zimmerman was in a place where he was not able to process because he was asking him questions and he was very basic and detached.

Osterman says they went to his car from the police station and both Shellie and George got into the back seat where she tried to access his injuries.

He says there was swelling on the left side of his head.

Osterman says Zimmerman explained from start to finish during the drive to his home.

Osterman says he likes to analyze everything, saying his wife would say it’s hard for him to get out of “law enforcement mode.”

11:53 a.m.
Osterman says he helped Zimmerman when he decided he needed a gun.

Osterman says he asked if he should or shouldn’t have a gun. Osterman says anyone who is not a convicted felon should carry a gun.

He encouraged Zimmerman to get a gun and training, he says.

De la Rionda objects that it is beyond the scope.

Osterman says he has known Zimmerman for five years and he is a best friend, but it won’t affect him speaking the truth.

Osterman described Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, as near-hysterical.

He says the neighbor that called her must’ve had to hang up and she had little to no information about Zimmerman’s health.

“She told me George was involved in a shooting, in handcuffs and bloody,” Osterman says.

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OK shut him up...

He said TM had his hand on the gun. GZ never said TM got to the gun. He stopped him before he could.

I'm not worried about no DNA of the gun because it was taken by the first officer on the scene who didn't have time to impound it properly. This witness has also said TM had his hand on the holster too, so I don't know how that was impounded.

I would think he had prepared him because he is GZ's friend and I think he would have talked to him.

Only if there is an objection. Also, similar to the res gestae statements, these were made close in time and could have contained statements against penal interest. Similar to a jailhouse confession, etc.

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Bernie wakes Nelson up to sustain one of his objections

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12:11 p.m.
O’Mara asks if Zimmerman seemed angry in the first contact described where he says Zimmerman and Martin saw each other.

Osterman says no.

He says he was driving as Zimmerman recounted what happened.

“They made eye contact several more times,” Osterman says, adding they were very aware of each other’s presence.

Osterman says Zimmerman told him what he was doing, but not what the dispatcher was telling him.

He says the conversation during the car ride was about 14 to 15 minutes. He says Shellie didn’t inject at all.

“That was his intent was to keep him under observation,” Osterman says.

Osterman says Zimmerman told him he walked down the path and the street beyond was better lit.

He says Zimmerman told him he went straight through the area to get a house number.

Osterman says he heard Zimmerman tell the incident again the next morning.

O’Mara asks Osterman to tell the jury what Zimmerman remembered of the event.

He says the position of Martin’s knees changed as Zimmerman squirmed, but began near the ribs area.

O’Mara asks if Zimmerman was consistent about Martin getting on top of him, he screamed for help and Martin using his hand over his mouth.

Osterman says yes.

He says the focus was clearing Martin’s hand as he was losing oxygen.

He says in his experience people in traumatic events might focus on one part of it to the exclusion of others.

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Fulton seems to be looking down, maybe texting, no rush from courtroom over testimony about her son's dead body.

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Tracy Martin is shaking his head and making facial smirks. Why is Nelson allowing this?

Important distinction, imo:

His memory 4 months later without notes or checking for accuracy with Zimmerman. Kind of makes any differences more his fault than Zimmerman's.

I agree, it shouldn't be allowed, but he's been doing that all along.

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12:22 p.m.
De la Rionda asks about the recount of who grabbed the gun. Osterman says he thought he heard that Martin actually grabbed the gun.

De la Rionda finishes questioning.

O’Mara re-cross examines, asking about the re-holstering of the gun.

“He may have had it still in his hand as he jumped on top of Trayvon,” Osterman says, adding he doesn’t know specifically when he re-holstered the firearm.

De la Rionda asks about the re-holstering and asks Osterman to look at his book.

De la Rionda reads a line from the book of Zimmerman thinking Martin might get up and re-holstering his gun.

Judge Nelson dismisses Osterman, but he is subject to recall.

She dismisses the jury for lunch until 1:30 p.m.

12:18 p.m.
Osterman says Zimmerman said Martin reached down to grab the gun. HE says he didn’t see a difference between grabbing the holster or gun because the intent was the same.

“I thought he had said he had grabbed the gun,” Osterman says.

Osterman says it is very common for someone to say something even if they’ve been shot.

Osterman says Zimmerman got on top of Martin to put his hands out. O’Mara asks if Zimmerman might’ve put Martins hands back under him.

De la Rionda objects.

Osterman says the next recount was the next day to his wife and Zimmerman’s wife.

He says Zimmerman looked different, not as “wide-eyed” and not in shock.

O’Mara asks him how long he waited to write a book. He says at least four months.

Osterman says he was not able to contact Zimmerman after he was arrested. He says there was no cooperation with Zimmerman for writing the book.

Osterman says he wrote the book based just on memory.

O’Mara asks if there were facts in the book proven wrong by evidence, if Osterman would defer to them.

He says yes, adding he may have heard or documented wrong.

O'Mara tries to ask about the 911 call with screams. De la Rionda objects to beyond the scope. O'Mara finishes questioning.

De la Rionda re-directs.

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Each day when the jury retires, and off they go to their respective homes. How can it be verified that they have not listened to or watched anything about the trial they are presiding on? Each day in court the judge asks them, and they say 'no' how can she verify it - she can't. Not just in this trial, but in all trials.

Recessed for lunch - don't talk to anyone or read anything about this trial - now in the confines of the courthouse area if they did, someone would see them, and doubtless report the matter, so not so easy there.

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Greg Warmoth of WFTV claims they have "breaking news" they just learned coming up after the break.

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

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