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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:53 pm 
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One thing that was impressive to me today is GZ telling Serino:

* I didn't confront him.....it wasn't my job*

It proves to me TM jumped him first. GZ was not planning on meeting up with Trayvon.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:58 pm 
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Yes I noticed that too. And it ties in with his previous calls where the point was to AVOID confrontation. Call it in and let the cops deal with it.

I have said before... I think I would have done EXACTLY what George did. I would not want to engage a suspicious guy.. but might call cops. Once TM ran away.. the first thing I would do is go to the T and see if I could see where he went. I would assume he was gone altogether.. but just a chance of seeing him in the distance. Perhaps NOT on a dark night though (with flash-light not working) :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:08 pm 
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Supposidly this is a package Baez sent to Bernie from Serino.

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/new ... 010813.pdf

Someone said to take note of pages:

1, 51 and 52.

I don't have the energy to read them tonight...I have an early wake up call.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:26 pm 
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Trayvon Martin's Cell Phone Records
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 08:22:44 AM EST

The Court has published the cell phone records for Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman.

Exhibits and Identification List
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... n_List.pdf

There are a few things to know when examining Martin's records. First, the two columns on the right represent minutes and seconds, respectively.

Second, according to this site, the outgoing calls to 1-805-637-624

....more at link
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/1/ ... ne-Records

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:51 pm 
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WOW!!! Chad lied...he called TM's ohone FIVE times that night.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:03 pm 
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From the TalkLeft link, kind of a big deal:
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Zimmerman’s call to non-emergency began at 7:09:34, but his phone records show he made the call at 7:08. Was he on hold for a minute and a half? Twice he referred to “trying to get through” in his statements to Det. Singleton and
Serino.


All of the home videos that purport to show Zimmerman is lying because of timeline would not have taken that extra minute and a half into account. A minute and a half is more than enough time for Martin to walk from Frank Taffee's house to the clubhouse and on down (whatever the heck the name of that cut-through street is named).

Zimmerman's narrative plausibly fits the timeline.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:57 pm 
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taurus wrote:
WOW!!! Chad lied...he called TM's ohone FIVE times that night.


TM did buy two blunts from the 3 stooges, right?

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... the-trail/

And why did they lie about Chad's age? Too young to smoke weed at age 12 ?


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The local news just stated that John's testimony didn't help GZ because he never saw TM strike GZ. I would have to say that the wounds show that the arm motions were in fact striking GZ and inflicting damage.

A step forward in Bernie's attempt to develop reasonable doubt for Trayvon!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:23 am 
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Rumpole wrote:
From CTH
WHY has it taken so long?


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ladygnawgnaw says:
July 1, 2013 at 1:24 pm

Daryl Parks on FOX 35 said, Crump will be deposed today.
Then he said something about Rachel’s testimony was believable and I could swear I heard laughing in the background.

A guess...

Yesterday the 30 day period to appeal ended, the ruling is Final today. I never read that any party waived the right to appeal.


Edit: I stand corrected! "Opinion filed June 3, 2013"


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:13 am 
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kbp wrote:
A step forward in Bernie's attempt to develop reasonable doubt for Trayvon!


Yes but I think by the end of this Bernie would have made a very good case, Beyond Reasonable doubt, that he is guilty.....

Trayvon that is...... Guilty of Attempted Murder/Aggravated Assault and Battery (or some such offence)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:28 am 
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Rumpole wrote:
Trayvon Martin's Cell Phone Records
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Mon Jul 01, 2013 at 08:22:44 AM EST

The Court has published the cell phone records for Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman.

Exhibits and Identification List
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... n_List.pdf

There are a few things to know when examining Martin's records. First, the two columns on the right represent minutes and seconds, respectively.

Second, according to this site, the outgoing calls to 1-805-637-624

....more at link
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/1/ ... ne-Records


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...In between, Chad calls at 7:04 and talks to Martin for 17 seconds. According to Chad's interview with police, Trayvon told him it was raining and he was on his way home. So it seems Martin had call-waiting and put Rachel on hold while he talked to Chad.

Rachel calls back at 7:12:06 pm, and the call ends 218 seconds later (3 min. 38 seconds) or at 7:15:44. Witness 11,the first 911 caller, got through at 7:16:11. The gunshot was around 7:16:53. So there was about one minute in between the time Martin's phone disconnected and the gunshot.

...Tracy said he called tried to call Trayvon’s phone several times and got voice-mail. Look at the phone records. The only call from Tracy’s phone, 954-410-5512, is at 12:49 a.m.


Could TrayDad's testimony be that he used Chad's phone? His stories have been all over the place, so what's one final destination change hurt?


Note: That photobucket BS made it impossible to find the most recent timeline you had posted, from GZ's team I believe.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:56 am 
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The PB BS will go away... in a few days.

I do not want to try and redo photos at another account


Most (but not all) images you can right click the photobucket BS box and view image.

I don't understand why not all.... and I fear PB are stuffing things up completely.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:35 am 
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kbp wrote:
Could TrayDad's testimony be that he used Chad's phone? His stories have been all over the place, so what's one final destination change hurt?


Note: That photobucket BS made it impossible to find the most recent timeline you had posted, from GZ's team I believe.


He may try that, but I seem to remember that he said he fell asleep on the sofa at 10:30PM and didn't wake up until the next morning. Although the last call on Chad's phone seems a little late for someone who was going to school the next day.

But Chad seems to be the only one concerned about why Mr. Martin didn't come home.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:00 am 
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Don't feel like the Lone Ranger stepped on by PhotoBucket. I've had the same troubles with them a week or so ago.


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Well isn't this a good way to start the day? As if BDLR needed more evidence to convict TM™ and exonerate GZ. :26

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AndrewBranca wrote:
Zimmerman Trial Day 6 – Analysis & Video – State’s witness Chris Serino seriously undermines charge
If you didn’t listen to the live streaming of the Zimmerman case, you missed the most astonishing cross-examination of a trial that has been hip-deep in astonishing cross-examinations. (Fortunately for you, we provide the video, below, if you need to catch up–it’s worth it.)
...


Read more at Legal Insurrection: http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zi ... es-charge/

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:15 am 
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Good morning liesel :51

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Detective to return to stand in George Zimmerman trial
Last Updated: Tuesday, July 02, 2013, 7:50 AM

SANFORD -- The lead police detective who investigated the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin will return to the witness stand today for a second day to testify about his investigation.

Sanford Police detective Chris Serino and another investigator, Doris Singleton, testified Monday about their investigation as jurors heard a series of police interviews in which the detectives grow more pointed in their questioning of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer later charged with second-degree murder in Martin's death. Zimmerman maintains he was acting in self-defense.

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taurus wrote:
WOW!!! Chad lied...he called TM's ohone FIVE times that night.


Geesh, Louise!!! This is the kind of people we're dealing with - the kind that would teach a 15 y.o. that it's okay to go on the stand and lie.

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