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DEFENSE VISUAL TIME LINE

From GZ Legal Site

http://www.gzlegalcase.com/


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Myth Busters: Did Zimmerman “Chase Down” a Fleeing Martin?
By Andrew Branca, Attorney at Law
June 18th, 2013

One of the enduring myths of the falsified public narrative promulgated by the State prosecutors and other anti-Zimmerman zealots has been that George Zimmerman “chased down” a frightened Trayvon Martin who was simply attempting to secure the safety of his destination (his father’s girlfriend’s home in at the Retreat at Twin Lakes neighborhood.

Is that what really happened? Or is George Zimmerman’s recounting more credible and consistent with the facts in evidence?

Let’s take a look at what the facts in evidence, the timeline, and the terrain tell us.

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So, given that Martin had 2 full minutes to cover 400 feet to safety, how close to safety might he have gotten? It all depends on his speed. Using myself as a stand-in I dug my sneakers out of the back of the closet, knocked the spiders out of it, and laced up. The goal was to see how much distance I could cover in 2 minutes–certainly Martin would not have been limited to less than that in retreating in fear from a frightening pursuer

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Test 1: ”Old-man jog”: I set my iPhone for two minutes, and set off down my street (nice and straight for these purposes). After 2 minutes I had covered: 1,260 feet.

Well, wait a minute. Surely if I could cover a full quarter-mile in 2 minutes Martin must have been able to cover 400 feet.

Perhaps Martin was not running the whole time, perhaps after a quick dash around the corner he proceeded at a swift walk.

Test 2: ”Swift walk: I reset my iPhone and set off briskly. When the timer went off after 2 minutes I had covered: 750 feet.

Wow, still almost twice as much ground as Martin needed to gain safety from the pursuing Zimmerman. But maybe Martin wasn’t walking swiftly. Maybe the fear instilled by Zimmerman’s pursuit was only sufficient incentive to motivate him to move at the speed of, say, a 48-year-old pushing a 2-year-old in a stroller.

Test 3: ”Stroller walk”: I buckled my two-year-old into her cheap umbrella stroller (not jogging stroller), reset my iPhone to 2 minutes, and set off. When the phone alarmed I had covered: 575 feet.

Five-hundred and seventy-five feet pushing a 2-year-old-laden stroller. Yet somehow Martin was not able to cover 400 feet to safety before Zimmerman fell upon him.

Another thought–even if Martin had for whatever reason not managed to make it all the way to his refuge, surely he would have been many yard down that path. Instead, we know he was barely around the corner in the direction of his destination.

This suggests not someone fleeing danger.

Rather, it is consistent with someone who obtained a position of concealment, waited for his unsuspecting victim to approach, then sprung from hiding to launch his attack. And unlike the myth that Zimmerman pursued a fleeing Martin, this scenario is actually supported by the facts in evidence.

Incidentally, this also generally destroys the myth of Zimmerman following Martin in any way that could have caused Martin to be in fear. Zimmerman did not exit his car until Martin had turned the corner. Were Martin fleeing, or even walking, away he would have been at least 150 feet past the corner, the same distance that Zimmerman had to cover from his parked to reach the corner. We now know, of course, that Martin went nowhere much after turning the corner.

In the meantime, after Zimmerman lost sight of Martin at the point he tells the dispatcher “He’s running,” he doesn’t see Martin again until Martin emerges from the bushes. Can you be “following” someone you don’t even see?

Food for thought. And looks to me like this myth is . . . BUSTED!

....more at link
http://lawofselfdefense.com/zimmerman-t ... ng-martin/

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This coming week should be good. Maybe the ME, forensics, the dude that drew the crime scene if there is a separate one. Detectives from Corey's office and Serino. Serino might not be too good for the state. He did hire a lawyer before he gave a depo. Could be interesting. Maybe the state will skip calling him and Mom will do it.

I hope the state rests their non case at the end of the week.


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Zimmerman Trial – Open Comment Forum – Weekend Wrap-Up & Reader Poll
Posted by Andrew Branca Saturday, June 29, 2013 at 12:06pm

It’s been a crazy busy week, of course, and we’ve done our best to cover it in detail here at Legal Insurrection. For your convenience, below are links to each end-of-day analysis post, as well as other substantive posts, made over the course of the week:

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http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zi ... d-wrap-up/


The Poll: Zimmerman Trial Week One -- Who's Winning?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:52 am 
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This coming week should be good. Maybe the ME, forensics, the dude that drew the crime scene if there is a separate one. Detectives from Corey's office and Serino. Serino might not be too good for the state. He did hire a lawyer before he gave a depo. Could be interesting. Maybe the state will skip calling him and Mom will do it.

I hope the state rests their non case at the end of the week.
BBM

The State seem to have no option but to start actually proving "Murder 2"... a "depraved Mind" and so go for GZ's "Character"

They have his Criminology teacher etc.. and have already indicated they want to show GZ was a frustrated Cop-wannabe.. with MMA training.

I think it could get messy with lots of objections about what evidence the State is trying to introduce.. sidebars and mini hearings for proffering testimony. I imagine that Nelson will allow most of what Bernie wants.. so after proffering we get to hear it all a second time when it's presented to jury.

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(let the "crime scene drawing" go. We are PAST that. As you can see from the RATL aerial photo above....IT DOESN'T MATTER what the exact distance from keys to body is???? It is all a long way from where TM should have been)

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I am so excited at the way this case is going. I have never seen a more interesting trial. I love that aerial photo. From the beginning of this case, I figured that would be the hardest evidence for the state to get past a jury.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:19 am 
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One of the first things I saw when I RELUCTANTLY looked at details of this case was the aerial photo, the layout of the scene.

I guess I am a "layout" kinda guy. In the Casey Anthony Case one of the first things I looked for was a floor plan of the Anthony home.. since a lot of discussion revolved around that. I ended up producing a Floor plan for that case. :) (I am famous for it)

Here as soon as I saw the layout I knew the MSM narrative did not make sense.

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I noticed that on June 28, the state filed an additional witness list. I wonder who they are.


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Knock Knock
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Ice cream for help, but nobody would help me.


credit to John Galt for this gem.
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 3998.story


How much of a role have race, racism played in Zimmerman trial?


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Hi Guys. Wanted to do a song from George Zimmerman's perspective. Posting it here firstfor you guys, cool as you are and all, lol Let me know if you want to do this one on youtube Rump.

https://soundcloud.com/jeffguitar/these-shall-be


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It's not a take-off of a Natalie Cole song, is it?

Or to the tune of "Let It Be"?


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I guess I am a "layout" kinda guy. In the Casey Anthony Case one of the first things I looked for was a floor plan of the Anthony home.. since a lot of discussion revolved around that. I ended up producing a Floor plan for that case. :) (I am famous for it)

Here as soon as I saw the layout I knew the MSM narrative did not make sense.


So you're saying you like to define the system boundaries first?

How very engineer of you. ;)

Let me guess: you're going to tell me that the next thing you do is to define your assumptions?

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No evidence Zimmerman eyewitness qualified for Olympics, despite claim under oath

The Daily Caller has learned that a witness for the prosecution in the George Zimmerman trial may have fibbed under oath when she said that she was a qualified Olympian.

Jayne Surdyka, who lives in the gated community where Trayvon Martin was killed, was asked Wednesday by state prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda if it was true that she had at some point qualified for the Olympic Games.

“During the eighties is, you know, when I was running and they had a marathon in the Olympic Games. I would have been the top three runners.”

De la Rionda followed up, asking “Were those the Olympics that was [sic] boycotted?”

“Yes, sir,” said Surdyka.

In a 2008 blog comment, a person using the handle “Jayne Surdyka” — who also listed that they lived in Florida — wrote that they were “a former Olympic athlete.” The commenter’s stated occupational history also matched that of the state’s witness.

The 1980 Summer Games, held in Moscow, were boycotted by the United States in response to Soviet military actions.

But those Games did not hold a women’s marathon event.

An article dated Feb. 24, 1981 reported on the International Olympic Committee’s decision to finally allow women to compete in the marathon event in the 1984 Games, held in Los Angeles.

A commenter at a track and field online message board recalled running with Surdyka at the University of Florida. That individual said that Surdyka was a decent runner, but added “I do not believe she ever made any Olympic team though.”

A Miami News article from Jan. 15, 1981 posted a marathon time for Surdyka. In August 1980, the article reports, Surdyka completed the International Avon Marathon with a time of 2 hours, 47 minutes. The article also reports that she did win the 1979 Southern 10K.



More including video at: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/28/no-ev ... z2XiVLqWDh

I realize in comparison to "pop pop pop" into TM™'s back, this is minor but it is indicative of this woman's frequent, possibly compulsive, lying. It is also indicative of her attempts and methods to draw attention to herself, an affliction I feel many Trayborg™ exhibit.

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I'm not in the least suprised about Jayne Surdyka. She struck me as a very lonely and needy person. This trial has given her the limelight she craved. This is a woman who appears to be in her sixties but is still trying to look as she did back in the 80's. Her over the top emotional 911 call that dragged on for what seemed for hours tells me she is a very fragile being, who is desperate for some attention.


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According to this article

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/198 ... ning-shoes

she was 26 in '85, so she's just now hitting her mid '50s.


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