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Ongoing discussion, talking heads, body language, etc. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/25 ... -zimmerman

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:28 pm 
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Referring to Jon, Hornsby agrees with Rumpole:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:30 pm 
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Hornsby is correct..... agreeing with Rumpole :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:41 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
Hornsby is correct..... agreeing with Rumpole :)

Generally a good position, which he continued in other tweets posted. :86

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:44 pm 
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Yesterday at CTH I posted that the Traybots claims about what would WIN the case for them have been eliminated one by one... and I predicted that their last hope would be what they imagine to be "Forensics".

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June 27, 2013 at 7:41 pm

Just a couple of weeks ago…Traybots were sure they had it in the bag
1. Voice ID experts
2. Dee Dee
3. “Their” ear witnesses
4. Forensics (Various imaginary)

So Forensics to come and they are done :slap

They STILL claim that George himself has “inconsistent” statements and that in itself will convict him?

If they were not wilfully ignorant they might by now grasp what REAL inconsistent testimony looks like…..



I must know my Traybots..... they have confirmed my prediction....


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:48 pm 
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Who is Richard Hornsby? I thought I knew who he was, but his picture is not the same as the guy I thought he was.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:51 pm 
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murderbythebook wrote:
Who is Richard Hornsby? I thought I knew who he was, but his picture is not the same as the guy I thought he was.

Young criminal defense attorney practicing in Orlando area. Brash sometimes, often funny; seems very knowledgeable. Comments for WESH, iirc, but I haven't been following WESH lately.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:52 pm 
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At the link I posted earlier, MyFoxOrlando, they think Austin will testify today.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:53 pm 
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Sundance giving Diwataman some praise at CTH.... well worth repeating here too.

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With the brilliance that is DiwataMan - an 18 second video which reflects more than 18 months of investigation, research and comprehension skills exhibited by the State of Florida. The entire reflective example of the State’s case compiled into 18 seconds. Brilliant.


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I don't think Ma and Pa Skittles ran out of the courtroom today when screams were played.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:56 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:

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I must know my Traybots..... they have confirmed my prediction....



No one knows the Trayborg™ like our Rumpole knows the Trayborg™. Not even the Trayborg™, as they clearly have zero self-awareness.

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I don't think Ma and Pa Skittles ran out of the courtroom today when screams were played.


I have to wonder if Judge Nelson got the word to them if they didn't stop interrupting the court she was going to exclude them from being in the courtroom.


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murderbythebook wrote:
I don't think Ma and Pa Skittles ran out of the courtroom today when screams were played.

Good catch. I didn't see any tweets about it either, but was distracted then so could have missed any when I reviewed.

Do you think they just weren't prepared, expecting a replay, or do you think it possible they've been cautioned the histrionics may get them booted out?

:Gslap I crack myself up sometimes... that entitled woman, Fulton, worried about getting booted out... as if Nelson would dare... lol

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My take on Serino: the State is putting him on the stand in order to try to prove a lesser Manslaughter charge.

Defense will shred him on cross, given his past statements with respect to evidence.

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LondoJowo wrote:

I have to wonder if Judge Nelson got the word to them if they didn't stop interrupting the court she was going to exclude them from being in the courtroom.

I think Fulton would love, love, love, love for Nelson to try to boot her. She'd get the "team" fired up again with major tearful pressers, maybe even marches.

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My take on Serino: the State is putting him on the stand in order to try to prove a lesser Manslaughter charge.

Defense will shred him on cross, given his past statements with respect to evidence.

Oooooh... maybe will get the details on his "lateral" transfer to patrol.

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Mr. Manalo of the "licensing fees" whose wife already testified on the stand now.

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Bill Schaeffer may need a refresher with respect to standard of evidence and burden of proof for a self-defense claim:
http://www.5dca.org/Opinions/Opin2013/0 ... 796.op.pdf

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A trial court's decision to give or withhold a proposed jury instruction is generally
reviewed for an abuse of discretion. Vila v. State, 74 So. 3d 1110, 1112 (Fla. 5th DCA
2011). However, the trial court's discretion is more restricted in criminal proceedings
"because a criminal defendant is entitled to have the jury instructed on his or her theory
of defense if there is any evidence to support the theory and the theory is recognized as
valid under Florida law." Id. The trial court should not weigh the evidence when
determining whether to give the requested instruction. Id.; see also Pope v. State, 458
So. 2d 327, 329 (Fla. 1st DCA 1984) (stating that "[i]t is axiomatic that a defendant is

entitled to have the jury instructed on the rules of law applicable to his theory of defense
if there is any evidence to support such an instruction, and the trial court may not weigh
the evidence in determining whether the instruction is appropriate") (citing Smith v.
State, 424 So. 2d 726, 732 (Fla. 1982)). The jury—not the trial judge—decides the weight of
the evidence. Vila, 74 So. 3d at 1112. "The question of self-defense is one of fact, and
is one for the jury to decide where the facts are disputed." Id. Additionally, a defendant
is not required to testify at trial to receive a jury instruction on self-defense. Sipple, 972
So. 2d at 915. A defendant's statements admitted into evidence at trial may be
sufficient evidence for a self-defense instruction. Id. The cross-examination of State
witnesses can also support a claim of self-defense. Id. at 916. Finally, if a jury can
reasonably infer from circumstantial evidence presented at trial that the defendant had
the state of mind necessary for self-defense, then the defendant is entitled to a jury
instruction on self-defense. Johnson v. State, 634 So. 2d 1144, 1145 (Fla. 4th DCA
1994).

Here, the trial court’s determination that Spurgeon presented a jury question on
the issue of self-defense belies its conclusion that no evidence was presented to
support his request for a self-defense instruction. The record reflects Spurgeon was not
under arrest at the time he was restrained and that he had repeatedly expressed a
desire to leave the hospital. Indeed, testimony revealed much of Spurgeon’s agitation
was due to him wanting to leave the hospital and being prevented from doing so. He
spat on DenDekker only after she placed her hands on him without his consent and
physically restrained him. This evidence was sufficient to warrant an instruction on self-9
defense and failing to give it was reversible error.

1099, 1099 (Fla. 1st DCA 2005) (reversing conviction for resisting an officer with
violence to his person and holding that the court erred in denying the request for a jury
instruction on self-defense that would have informed the jury that it is lawful to resist
deadly force with non-deadly force); Langston v. State, 789 So. 2d 1024, 1025 (Fla. 1st
DCA 2001)(reversing conviction for resisting arrest with violence where the trial court
refused to give requested instruction on the lawful use of force to defend against an
officer's use of unlawful or excessive force while making an arrest when some evidence
supported the instruction); Holley v. State, 532 So. 2d 562, 564 (Fla. 1st DCA 1982)
(reversing conviction for battery on a law enforcement officer and holding that the court
erred in denying the defendant's request for a self-defense instruction when evidence in
the record supported the self-defense theory).

(Some footnotes and refs omitted)

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