I see the difference was that all the other perps ran away (always got away)... TM did not.

Trayvon is what is different... a thug who waits and attacks.

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Hey, I didn't say it was a good argument; just that it's the one to which they've hitched their horse.

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10:09 a.m.
Mantei asks Rumph about the 911 calls made on Feb. 26, 2013.

He asks about a call made by Mrs. Lauer.

Rumph explains the difference between connection times and created time. She says connection is when they pick up the phone.

Rumph says this call was a duplicate.

Mantei asks about the Surdyka call.

O’Mara asks to approach for a sidebar.

10:03 a.m.
The jury is seated. Judge Nelson asks if any of the saw reports about the case. Mantei resumes questioning the witness.

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Evidence that the few slips of foul language indicates his calm was just about to disappear in a burst ...evidently after the NEN call had ended, probably soon after the azz kickin' had started!

DRINK

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Police NW coordinator

10:13 a.m.
Wendy Dorival, the accreditation manager for the Sanford Police Department, is called to the stand.

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I believe that GZ never expected to see TM again, he figured he would run out the back entrance like the others before TM.

Are they out to prove that GZ in someway failed to follow a NW rule? Is that the best they can do a lesser included charge

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As she flicked through the powerpoint pages... I saw a car cartoon... that could be the critical slide that spells out the "Not getting out of your truck" rule.

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Crump was interviewed by Anderson Cooper last night.

I thought I heard the Judge yesterday instruct that the witnesses/potential witnesses are not to discuss the case with anyone else and for the attorneys to advise such.

Doesn't Crump as a potential witness fall under the Judge's instructions.

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We now know they should report suspicious situations and be the eyes & ears.

Time for the joke of the day.

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As I have always understood it, that can only be accomplished through an order from the judge. Most states I've followed cases in were only concerned with the jurors.

I know Chip. Just wondering how they get there. Especially since they have to have a witness say on the stand that they have some way of determining that George was getting increasingly frustrated.

10:29 a.m.
Guy shows an individual PowerPoint slide with the wording: “Not the vigilante police.”

He shows a page of the handout from the coordinator’s handbook. He asks her to explain bullet point number 10.

Dorival says it talks about the responsibility for the program.

She says she never said to the defendant or anyone at the meeting that is was “OK to follow anyone acting suspicious.”

She says Zimmerman mentioned his major was criminal justice.

She says the distinction between calling 911 or non-emergency is if there is an immediate need for police to be there. “Overall I tell them, if you don’t know, just call 911,” she says.

She says it is standard procedure to have an officer at a watch meeting and two were present at the Retreat at Twin Lakes meeting.

She says she was emailed about a previous burglary in the neighborhood.

Guy finishes questioning. Defense attorney Don West rises to begin cross-examination.

10:23 a.m.
Prosecutor John Guy asks Dorival what she did for the police department back in Feb. 2012.

She says she was coordinating the neighborhood watch program.

She says she would go to communities to present what neighborhood watch is and how it works.

She says the coordinator serves as a liaison with the police department, a block captain serves to get people on the block involved, and participants are the “eyes and ears for law enforcement.”

The presentation covers crime prevention, duties, engagement. She says the first thing she does is have every resident introduce themselves.

She provides handouts that cover the history of neighborhood watch, preventing burglaries and more.

She says if a person is acting suspicious the person should call 911 or non-emergency dispatch.

“Not to confront, to let us do the job, let police do the job,” Dorival says about what she tells participants to do about confronting a suspicious person.

She is asked to identify George Zimmerman. He stands for her to see.

She says her first contact with him was sometime in August 2011.

The presentation meeting was scheduled on Sept. 22, 2011 at the complex clubhouse.

She says Zimmerman was present and she spoke with him.

She says the homeowner’s association president was also present, along with about 25 residents.

She says Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch coordinator. She says he told her he had been asked by the HOA to be a coordinator.

Zimmerman was given a coordinator handbook.

Guy shows her a neighborhood watch coordinator handbook. Dorival says it looks to be complete.

Guy also shows her the PowerPoint presentation she provides for neighborhood watch to make sure it is complete.

10:13 a.m.
Wendy Dorival, the accreditation manager for the Sanford Police Department, is called to the stand.

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It does not. If it did the State would certainly bring it up. I went thru this brief a long time ago and recall this slide had info on how to properly describe a car (color, make, model, # doors, etc).

So he turned down citizens on patrol. Some wanna be cop.

Witness: Wendy Dorival

10:45 a.m.
West says he wants to talk more about her role with neighborhood watch.

She says she has done several different presentations.

West asks her to walk through her presentation.

She says there are 25 slides and she usually tells organizers to give her an hour for the presentation so the participants can get to know each other.

“A lot of neighbors don’t talk to each other these days,“ she says.

She says she believes her first contact with Zimmerman was by phone. She says he was polite and courteous and respectful.

She says she provided Zimmerman with 200 to 300 fliers.

She says at that meeting the number one concern was burglaries. She says she noticed several burglaries before she arrived there via crime-mapping software.

She says there were some issues with the HOA about fencing, possibly a gate not working and lighting.

She says she can offer suggestions about security and lighting. Dorival says Mr. O’Brien said those issues would be taken care of.

She says a handful of people had another issue with the patio doors and a hinge that would pop open. She says she recommended a locking device available at a home store.

She says the presentation covers a broad range of crime prevention.

She says leaving the garage door open is a common mistake.

West asks if someone mentioned a home invasion burglary.

The prosecution objects.

West asks about the specific advice she might have given.

She says a resident was upset because someone entered and burglarized her home while she was inside with a small child.

“It was very terrifying for her,” Dorival says.

She says the best thing about neighborhood watch is communicating with neighbors. She says she encourages sharing of all information.

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Good catch!