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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:58 am 
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Maybe I'm jumping the gun (no pun intended), not liking this opening. This should be saved for later. After Guy's dramatic fairy tale, to technical at this point.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:58 am 
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FWIW - I agree with Chip about West's joke. Importantly, the joke lowered possible expectations of an impassioned, or like Guy's, very emotional opening.


edit - typo was a BAD one!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:01 am 
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The defenses opening is completely void of emotion so far compared to the extremely moving opening by the state.


Huh?? Extremely moving??


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:03 am 
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DD's call inaccuracies may come out in opening


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:07 am 
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Defense is making its case before the state can try. Strategy??


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:13 am 
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Was that Bondi?


...in the audience?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:14 am 
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“This is a sad case,” West begins. He mentions a juror’s answer from questioning that there are no winners.

West mentions that Martin’s parents are grieving. He mentions that Zimmerman’s parents are too. He points out Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, and says Zimmerman’s parents are present because they are permitted to be there because they are witnesses.

West says he grew up in a family that had moments of great joy and sadness, and says his mother…

Guy objects as to improper argument. Judge Nelson says it is personalizing and should be what the evidence is going to show.

“I think the evidence will show that this is a sad case. That there are no monsters here,” West says.

West says he knows it may sound weird, but he would like to tell the jurors a joke.

He asks that if the jurors don’t like it, they don’t hold it against Zimmerman.

“Knock, knock. Who’s there? George Zimmerman, Zimmerman who? OK, you’re on the jury,” West says.

West says Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense.

He says he will display some things as he sets up an easel.

He says the jurors are looking at an aerial view of the Retreat at Twin Lakes.

He points to the area where Zimmerman lived. He points out the street, clubhouse, the main entrance, back entrance, the mailboxes and another street.

He says the jurors will hear a lot of testimony about the T-intersection where he says almost all of the important events took place.

He says a pathway is sometimes called the dog path.

West says Zimmerman left his house in his truck to go to Target for groceries for his lunch. He shows on the map the route Zimmerman took. He says

Zimmerman saw the person, later to become known as Trayvon Martin, cutting through houses.

West shows another aerial picture to the jury that also shows the 7-Eleven.

West shows the ways to get from the store to the complex and says it is about a mile.

West says Zimmerman saw Martin in a spot and caught his attention.

West says Zimmerman didn’t know that in less than 10 minutes, he would be sucker-punched in the face and have his head pounded in the concrete and fatally shoot Martin.

West says the community asked Zimmerman to be the watch liaison.

West says the coordinator with the police department asked for a point person to help coordinate the effort.

West says Zimmerman was active in the community and asked to help coordinate.

West says no patrols were set up, and he wasn’t patrolling that night. He says people were told if they see a crime to call 911, but if they want to bring the person to the attention of law enforcement they have a second number.

West says Zimmerman called the non-emergency number and described what he was seeing as he was seeing it.

West mentions the expletive phrase and says the jurors will hear the context.

“There’s been a lot of publicity, some of you may have even heard it,” West says about Zimmerman being told not to follow.

West says that is not true.

West says the jurors will know exactly when that happened on their timeline.

West says the jurors should also keep in mind that the defense also connected the call from the woman, sometimes described as Martin’s girlfriend.

West says the two shared messages and calls for a couple of weeks.

West says the call started before Zimmerman’s non-emergency call and ended and there was a gap of 20 seconds.

West mentions the continuous call between Martin and the woman and a call from one of the witnesses. He says around 30 seconds and then points to a new aerial photo showing where the witness lived and the location of the incident.

West says that’s the call the jury will “hear the rest of.”

West shows the jury where Zimmerman’s truck was parked.

West shows the jury another view of the intersection. He points out where three people live. He names one that he says was the only eye witness.

West says he will talk about the forensic evidence directly connected with the shooting.

West plays the non-emergency call Zimmerman made. He says he will point to certain parts of it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:17 am 
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"I don't know where this kid is" Trayvon could have gone home at this time and ended this situation, but didn't. This shows Trayvon wasn't scared. Here was the beginning of TM's rage.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:21 am 
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George, wake up!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:25 am 
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Traymom still out of cortroom? Avoiding camera panning?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:27 am 
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HA...West got it in the opening that Rachel is 19, was 18 at the time.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:27 am 
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kbp wrote:
Traymom still out of cortroom? Avoiding camera panning?


Is that Crump in the courtroom??? It looks like him.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:29 am 
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"Trayvon Martin hadn't gone home"


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:30 am 
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kbp wrote:
"Trayvon Martin hadn't gone home"


BINGO!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:31 am 
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kbp wrote:
Traymom still out of cortroom? Avoiding camera panning?


murderbythebook wrote:
Is that Crump in the courtroom??? It looks like him.

You may be seeing Parks.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:33 am 
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I always thought dispatchers asked to many questions when I was in the middle of something and trying to concentrate.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:34 am 
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...hand in waist band ...GET AN OFFICER OVER HERE

Doesn't sound like someone he wants to confront!


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I'm seeing lots of comments about not liking West's presentation.

To the contrary: this is how I imagine a federal trial lawyer plays to a jury: dispassionate, just-the-facts, subtle cues to imprint a point of view on the jurors.

This is a thing of beauty to listen to, especially knowing how much it utterly destroys the State's emotion-based case.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:37 am 
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kbp wrote:
...hand in waist band ...GET AN OFFICER OVER HERE

Doesn't sound like someone he wants to confront!


He knew he needed help at this time. The way Trayvon was acting scared him. The way TM came toward him with his hands in his waistband would scare anyone. Then TM walked around GZ's vehicle.


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