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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:01 pm 
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http://www.local10.com/news/prosecution ... index.html

Prosecution wants two books from George Zimmerman

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Prosecutors requested two books and some e-mails from George Zimmerman Saturday.

Zimmerman is being accused of murdering Trayvon Martin, Feb. 26, 2012. The former crime watch captain volunteer claims he killed him in self-defense.

Prosecutors have to prove motive. They have records of Zimmerman's curriculum and grades while he was a criminal justice student at Seminole State College of Florida . He did not graduate.

These are the books prosecutors want:

-- Criminal Law and Procedures for the Paralegal: A Systems Approach, 3rd Edition Delmar Learning

-- Criminal Justice in Action, 4th Edition (Gaines & Miller).

Opening statements in the second-degree murder case will begin 9 a.m., Monday. Defense attorney Don West will present first.



You want two books from George? Whaaaat?

Why you cheap bastards, go buy them yourselves!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:19 pm 
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unitron wrote:
Emails and a textbook and a recently mentioned witness who was one of his "wannabe cop" instructors.

Maybe they're going to try very hard to prove that Zimmerman, contrary to what he said about being unfamiliar with the SYG law (which has no bearing on this case), had been exposed to some mention of it.

I'm not sure how smart a political move it is to go after SYG in Fla, because the only way I see for the state to make Zimmerman look bad with it is the "SYG is just a license to hunt and kill minorities" meme.



the Syg defense was waived by the defense. I don't see how that could be relevant.


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Zimmerman Jurors Begin Life In Sequestration.

http://www.ydr.com/nation-world/ci_2352 ... uestration


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:53 pm 
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Not for nothing but I would think anyone who possesed a concealed gun weapon would want to know all the laws inc. SYG.

The state is getting desperate.


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JB from SoCal wrote:
You want two books from George? Whaaaat?

Why you cheap bastards, go buy them yourselves!


I think the article was wrong. The state isn't subpoenaing the books from GZ; they're just disclosing their intention to use them at trial. (Though if they saw how overpriced they are, they might want to borrow GZ's copies.)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:05 pm 
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JB from SoCal wrote:
You want two books from George? Whaaaat?

Why you cheap bastards, go buy them yourselves!

MJW wrote:
I think the article was wrong. The state isn't subpoenaing the books from GZ; they're just disclosing their intention to use them at trial. (Though if they saw how overpriced they are, they might want to borrow GZ's copies.)

Being Discovery, that's how I took it. The article was one of two hits that popped up when I was searching the title of the first book, so I shared it with the links.


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the Syg defense was waived by the defense. I don't see how that could be relevant.


You're confusing the SYG portion of Florida's Jusifiable Use of Force act (which has no bearing on this case whatsoever) with the immunity portion of the JUoF law, and they only waived a pre-trial immunity hearing, but can still raise the issue later.


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You know, this trial could be over in a flash. Especially if Nelson does the right thing and dismisses the mess as soon as the defense asks her to at the end of Bernardo's case in chief. The state's case in chief. I actually laughed as I typed that. :Gslap


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Has anyone seen Analyst around lately?


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unitron wrote:

You're confusing the SYG portion of Florida's Jusifiable Use of Force act (which has no bearing on this case whatsoever) with the immunity portion of the JUoF law, and they only waived a pre-trial immunity hearing, but can still raise the issue later.


I think the original post confused me.

He has not waived his right to his Immunity Hearing, instead he’s asking for it to be rolled into the trial date, due to the state’s stonewalling with hiding evidence they possess.


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Testing out my new usb soundcard I thought I would write a quick song for George Z. I suggest headphones cause it's not mixed real well. I am playing everything but the drums here and they are a software program. All written and done today just for fun. Hope you folks like.
https://soundcloud.com/jeffguitar/georgie

Here are the lyrics

Georgie was protecting his own neighborhood
Neighborhood watch he did the best that he could

Trayvon was wondering around, acting just like he was stoned
Georgie tried to keep him in sight, until he got punched in the nose
Trayvon mounted Georgie and then, beat his head on the cement

Trayvon wasn’t practicing no stand your ground
Classic self defense is what the jury found

Bashing the back of his head, and punching him right in the nose
He screamed for someone to come help , Johnny then called 911
When John left Georgie’s heart it just sank, He could have used some purple drank


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MJW wrote:
I think the article was wrong. The state isn't subpoenaing the books from GZ; they're just disclosing their intention to use them at trial. (Though if they saw how overpriced they are, they might want to borrow GZ's copies.)


Yes, thanks MJW.

I too think the "media" report is wrong. Heavens who would have thought.

If the State are presenting the emails and books as "Discovery"... then they have them already.

I think the GZ emails were obtained many months ago by State, and they have been talking about GZ's alleged training in the law from the outset. It was even mentioned by BDLR and Judge Lester at the second bond hearing.

So... as I already stated... it seems VERY late to be presenting "Discovery"

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:32 pm 
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Testing out my new usb soundcard I thought I would write a quick song for George Z. I suggest headphones cause it's not mixed real well. I am playing everything but the drums here and they are a software program. All written and done today just for fun. Hope you folks like.
https://soundcloud.com/jeffguitar/georgie

Here are the lyrics

Georgie was protecting his own neighborhood
Neighborhood watch he did the best that he could

Trayvon was wondering around, acting just like he was stoned
Georgie tried to keep him in sight, until he got punched in the nose
Trayvon mounted Georgie and then, beat his head on the cement

Trayvon wasn’t practicing no stand your ground
Classic self defense is what the jury found

Bashing the back of his head, and punching him right in the nose
He screamed for someone to come help , Johnny then called 911
When John left Georgie’s heart it just sank, He could have used some purple drank


I LOVE IT!!!!! :give

Do ya wanna make it into a Youtube?

Just audio... with a pic or two of George.. nothing fancy. I would be happy to do that... if i can get the audio file from your link... or if you email it to me.

If a YT... easier to post other places... eg CTH

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"In-depth profiles of the 6 jurors and 4 alternates, how they answered questions during voir dire, and what we know about them."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/me ... al-jurors/

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:45 pm 
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Just give me a pm and send me your normal email and I'll attache the mp3. As long as no names and only a pic of George that would be cool and fun. No problem.

Rumpole wrote:
Do ya wanna make it into a Youtube?

Just audio... with a pic or two of George.. nothing fancy. I would be happy to do that... if i can get the audio file from your link... or if you email it to me.

If a YT... easier to post other places... eg CTH


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guitarjeff wrote:
Testing out my new usb soundcard I thought I would write a quick song for George Z.

I liked it all, but not "he could have used some purple drank." That shouldn't be connected to George at all. Please find another line to put in.


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Too late to change it now, wish I would have thought of that in that way, though.


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Well, who knows, people might start asking what it is, and find out that is what Trayvon liked so much. You never know, it might be a good thing. :83


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:91 Announcing...... WORLD PREMIER! :91


Georgie - Zimfan

:DN4 Georgie was protecting his own neighborhood
Neighborhood watch he did the best that he could

Trayvon was wondering around, acting just like he was stoned
Georgie tried to keep him in sight, until he got punched in the nose
Trayvon mounted Georgie and then, beat his head on the cement

Trayvon wasn't practicing no stand your ground
Classic self defense is what the jury found

Bashing the back of his head, and punching him right in the nose
He screamed for someone to come help , Johnny then called 911
When John left Georgie's heart it just sank, He could have used some purple drank

Georgie... I wish you were a neighbor of mine..
Georgie... I wish you were a neighbor of mine..
:DN4


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guitarjeff wrote:
Testing out my new usb soundcard I thought I would write a quick song for George Z. (Snipped for length)


Great job -thank you! :28

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