It's getting deeper into great bodily harm!

What a petulent ass Bernie is...

Fair enough to ask for the instruction to be read... but as MOM went to hand copy to judge.. Bernie rushed in to make it a sidebar..


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I wondered when Bernie would object to O'Mara reading the jury instructions.

Now I wonder if Nelson will allow O'Mara to repeat any excepts Nelson has read?

11:40 a.m.
Judge Nelson reads the juror instructions on the law of justifiable use of deadly force, but says they might change slightly.

11:38 a.m.
O’Mara reads the description and the allowing of deadly force if Zimmerman believes his life is in danger.

Juror E-40 says the information needs to be fleshed out through the trial process.

Juror E-6 asks if the law provides clarification on what is reasonable.

O’Mara says they will decide if the defendant was justified.

De la Rionda objects. Judge Nelson says she would prefer to be the one reading juror instructions.

The attorneys enter a sidebar.

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First things last: Nelson finally gets around to telling the jury that the judge, and not BDLR, will instruct the jury on the law.

Nelson allowed BDLR to lecture the jurors extensively on the law, but jumps right in when MOM reads standard jury instructions.

Note: fear of, not evidence that it actually happened.

Nelson is irked... jumped in to answer... MOM's answer was better

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I like where MOM has taken this.

Think "reasonable person" trying to figure out if these injuries might cause fear of great bodily harm...





Then convince them that Tray was reaching for a gun....

MOM's doing a fair job of letting the PJ's tell his story for him.

Sidebar


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Think Jury Nullification

Bernie was happier with George having to prove self-defense!!

I sense Nelson loves to get that first part of the instructions in whenever possible, as she decides she needs to read it again.

12:05 p.m.
Judge Nelson says the court will not define the terminology for them. She says a written copy will be given to them when they are assigned to the jury.

O’Mara asks if anyone has a problem applying the law.

12:00 p.m.
O’Mara asks the juror what her verdict would be if she had a reasonable doubt as to whether self-defense exists.

O’Mara reads the portion of the instruction about self-defense.

De la Rionda objects.

Judge Nelson reads the instruction again. She says she is not singling out a portion of it so it won’t be taken out of context.

11:57 a.m.
O’Mara addresses Juror G-29. He asks her what she would do if she has a reasonable doubt about Zimmerman acting in self-defense.

She says the state has to prove it.

De la Rionda objects to the line of questioning.

11:50 a.m.
O’Mara asks if the jurors have any questions.

A juror, E-6, says she was wondering how the term “reasonable” is reached.

Judge Nelson says this is “the province of the jury” and what they will discuss in deliberations.

Juror B-14 is asked what she thinks.

She says she knows there is law that the state of Florida has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, and her responsibility as a juror is to apply the law.

She says now there is the self-defense law that they must do the same thing for.

O’Mara mentions the portion of the law that addresses the duty to retreat and the concept of Stand Your Ground. He addresses Juror H-6.

Juror H-6 says it was put there for a reason and he feels that if you are attacked you should be able to defend yourself.

O’Mara asks if anyone has concerns with the concept that a person has no duty to retreat.

Six jurors raise their hands

Juror B-7 says he was opposed to the law when it passed.

O’Mara explains that it takes the Castle Doctrine and moves it outside the home.

Another juror says she doesn’t understand the retreat part.

The attorneys are asked to approach Judge Nelson.

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MOM questioning PJ about previous fights he experienced. The guy mentioned the adrenaline rush that overtakes one as they try to survive, the natural instinct to get out of the situation giving them fear (paraphrased)!

Woman who had nephew shot... home invasion.... IMO she clearly can not put that aside... should be dismissed.

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I agree. She needs to go.

Didn't she point out that he was very young. I inferred that would cause her a problem with Trayvon's death.

Could she feel that the nephew had a right to self-defense? I'm wondering out loud if she'll understand George was the one attacked, the one to comapre to her nephew.

Wild card?

It troubles me to see guns strapped to people's sides and the gun is showing. Here you can do that. You can strap two six shooters to your waist like in the wild west. Here you don't need a concealed weapons permit either. This state is from another era. Coming from Florida, I just assume everyone is armed here one way or another.