He figured out that the housing screws were located under the rubber feet. Definitely astronaut material.

Still not a single tweet from Bigboi since 13th June.

There could be MANY reasons for that… but Bigboi coming to her senses is well down the list.

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Reminder... more rollicking Jury Selection adventures later today (tomorrow)


JURY SELECTION - DAY 6

State of Florida V George Zimmernan

Day 6 Monday June 17, 2013 9:00AM EST



JURY SELECTION (plus some other matters) DISCUSSION
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=953&p=42994#p42944

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Then consider the state's motion:

State's Motion




Can Nelson hear what Reich claims to hear?????

If that is the case then..... Judge No may well accept the expert under Frye..... I think she has plenty of wiggle room to do that since the "Methodology" is Kosher... it is merely that the State "experts" are using that methodology in a questionable way.

IANAL but it may well be that the "McCoy" test referenced above may then only come into play when the Shonky Experts offer their evidence... so during the Trial. So when somebody tries to offer the transcript into evidence... then we have a side show with Jury removed... Nelson listens... and says... wow yeah I hear it just like he says.... and isn't there a Cockatoo squawking on there too?
(Actually there IS a cockatoo on one of the 911 calls)

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My take is that Bernie wants the "McCoy" to apply to the magic word phrases only Reich can hear (note "transcription").

As for the methodology Nelson has mentioned umpteen times, the standards cited by the defense were not followed, but I suppose Nelson could say that was the starting point before Bernie's experts went out of bounds!


ADD: The methodology relates to WHO was screaming, the transcript of the screams is not in question. The McCoy looks to be about what nobody can hear.

At Zimmerman trial prosecutors won't use 'profiled' in opening statement
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
9:09 a.m. EDT, June 17, 2013

SANFORD – Quietly and with hardly anyone noticing, George Zimmerman's attorneys convinced a judge to ban prosecutors from using the word "profiled" in their opening statement.

That means the theory that was the backbone of the state's case – that 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was profiled — is now something prosecutors cannot mention as they launch into their case against the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer.

It is a major pretrial victory for the 29-year-old Zimmerman, who in the days and weeks immediately after Trayvon's death was denounced as a racist, made into a social pariah and became the subject of a federal civil rights investigation.

The decision to ban the word "profiled" or any variation of it came one week ago, on Day 1 of Zimmerman's trial, but Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson disposed of the issue quickly, and there was almost no discussion of it in open court.

"I don't have any objection to not mentioning these words," said lead prosecutor Bernie de Rionda, and the judge quickly moved on to another issue, jury selection.

De la Rionda was referring not only to "profiled" but also five other words or phrases that defense attorney Mark O'Mara had asked the judge to ban in a motion he filed May 30, asking her to prohibit several "inflammatory terms".

The others are "vigilante," "self-appointed Neighborhood Watch captain," "wannabe cop," and the phrases "He got out of the car after the police told him not to," and "He confronted Trayvon Martin."

Two of the now-banned phrases appear in the probable cause affidavit that prosecutors used to convince a judge to jail Zimmerman on a second-degree murder charge in April 2012.

...more at link
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 1292.story

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A Fathers Reflection:One on One with Tracy Martin, father of slain Florida teen Trayvon Martin

- See more at: http://www.lasentinel.net/index.php?opt ... p73C2.dpuf

From the interview (Tracy's denial)

"True enough, they may say some things about using marijuana or he had pictures with guns or whatever but I didn’t know that Trayvon. I just don’t feel that will have an effect on me. Just sitting up listening to those things can have its wear and tear on you. And the only thing I can try to stand on is my faith. I’ll just keep that strong hold on my faith and I will let good outweigh the bad. "

"But I didn't know that Trayvon" - OMG! Hellooooo..........................

So I guess Bernie won't be saying much at all then. O'Mara should have included the phrase "took him down".

Of course, losing your son is one of the worst things that can happen, but Tracy is refusing to take any responsibility:

more from forensicpsy's link above:



What??? "You can't speak on it?" Yet you can make up an entire narrative about the other guy who you knew EVEN LESS?

Wow.

Yep! And what about this?

TM: The defense attorney wants to put in the potential jury’s mind that Trayvon was this bad kid that was on heavy drugs and he was all off into guns and my thing is he was 17 years old. He had just turned 17. If he was that bad of a kid, why wasn’t he ever in any trouble with the law? ... Of course he did get suspended from school but that didn’t make him a bad kid. If you take a poll on high school students, I guarantee you 65-70% of the high school students have tried marijuana. The gun thing, I don’t have guns in my household I can’t say yeah Trayvon had a gun and I knew about it because I didn’t know that Trayvon. I didn’t know about Trayvon with a gun. The pictures that they released, those were the first time I saw those pictures. And I’m sure every parent in this country can’t tell you what their child does when they’re away from home or what their daily activities are because we’re not around our kids 24 hours a day. So if your child does something while he’s not around you, you can’t speak on it. All we can do is be hopeful that the things we instilled in our children will outweigh temptation.

The poor man is in serious denial. He cannot face that he neglected his parental duties. He is now being willfully ignorant of the facts about his son. If he didn't see it, it didn't happen. Lots of parents wish they could invoke these "new rules."

I thought that that matter was agreed upon only regarding jury selection, not opening statements. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBXyGl7D4-I#t=386s

I can understand he is grieving, but I don't like it when he uses this grief in a calculated, primed interview aimed at tainting a trial.

I think this is another incident where I don't live in the type of world they inhabit. His behavior that night of not knowing where his son was, going to sleep, and then thinking he was arrested is not typical behavior of anyone I know. The fact that they then try to clean it up is not something I can respect.

All of this doesn't tell you how Mr. Martin died, but it certainly tells you that he wasn't influenced by an environment where things were normal teenage behavior.

IMO, any responsible, competent parent would have grounded with close supervision any child suspended from school, and that would apply until suspension was ended and child returned to school.

It's the culture. It's not the same as ours.

I just posted the following on OS Chat



Let's see if they post this in an article.......I seriously doubt they will

If the state's entire case is as weak as their speech voodoo, they're in trouble. The only reason Owen is act two of that side show is because Reich won top billing ...and the test for placement is not a reward.