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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:51 pm 
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Bigboi likes to tweet the time that George's Curfew takes effect each day, so in reply.....



It appears that Bigboi has once again fallen into an alcohol induced coma and stopped tweeting for the day
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It is safe for intelligent, informed, sane people to discuss the GZ case on twitter... for a few hours
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If only Bigboi had kept her dog under control, when she was ordered to... Trayvon would still be alive..

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:04 pm 
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You should send this pic to Bill O'Reilly. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:20 pm 
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I am sure FOX peeps have seen it. It will only get as far as Bill's eyes if one of his staff decide to show it to him.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:25 pm 
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kbp wrote:
In my mind, the most convincing single piece of evidence that the prosecution has is George reaching for ____ (cell phone), which a juror might believe was when Trayvon saw the gun, assumed George was reaching for it, and attacked in self-defense.


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Reaching for one's pocket simply does not constitute imminent use of unlawful force. Thus, regardless of what Martin thought regarding such action, the belief that Zimmerman was reaching for a gun would not be a reasonable fear.

The great irony there is that for BDLR to attempt such an argument would concede Zimmerman's self-defense claim by default, since there is no logical way to claim that reaching for one's pocket constitutes imminent use of unlawful force, while simultaneously claiming that Zimmerman did not have reasonable fear of imminent risk of life or great bodily harm at the time he used deadly force.


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Zimmerman reaching for cell phone perceived as gun justifies physical assault.
OK, then how about Trayvon reaching for waist band? And what about Trayvon reaching for holstered gun?


Careful fellas, I was only pointing that out because Bernie strikes me as defending Trayvon more than he does as prosecuting George..

George says he reached for ____. The jury can take that as a fact if it choose to consider it.

George also told us when Trayvon noticed his gun. How did George know when Trayvon first became aware of the gun?

Is it possible that Trayvon saw it prior to hitting George …and that he reached for it when the opportunity first came about?

If, just after the confrontation started…

…George saw Trayvon reach for a gun and shot him in response, what would his defense be?
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…Trayvon saw George reach for a gun and shot him in response, what would his defense be?

Is it possible for Bernie to somehow point out that George might not be correct in his guess at when Trayvon first saw his gun, it might have happened before the attack?

I see chances for Bernie to build that reasonable doubt for Trayvon's defense, though the totality of the evidence is certainly in George's favor. If the goal is a show trial that leaves the door open for a civil case, then that method could work out for Bernie.


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Oh wow, Piers Morgan actually said that???? :eek

I can't watch because it will just infuriate me (even more). :41


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:55 pm 
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forensicpsy wrote:
Coming up on FOX - Bill O'Reilly - Will George get a fair trial or have people convicted him already?



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Wowzer! O'Reilly said that the media has not been fair to George and that he will be monitoring during the trial.

Thanks, Bill. :86



Bill O'Reilly is repeated in 5 minutes on Fox, for those who missed it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:59 pm 
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Oh wow, Piers Morgan actually said that???? :eek

I can't watch because it will just infuriate me (even more). :41


Did you see the last time RZjr was on Piers Morgan's show? Piers had his mind made up and was completely close minded. It'll be interesting to see the difference between that interview and this one.

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I managed to watch a little but turned it off as my blood pressure rose. I don't know how Robert kept his cool in the face of such a jerk as Piers!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:22 pm 
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Bill O'Reilly just displayed a little boy picture of Trayvon. I will be watching when the segment comes up.

I'm going to watch the rerun of Piers Morgan even though I can't stand him.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:23 pm 
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I know! I decided never to watch his show again, but I like really Robert, so I'll watch it tonight.

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MBTB: I don't think they'll ever stop presenting Trayvon as a young child. To be fair, the media should also show childhood photos of George when they discuss the case. (It would show how silly it is. We were all innocent children. What does that have to do with who we are now?)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:37 pm 
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It's coming up now on Oreilly.

Now they will show a more current picture.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:47 pm 
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Thanks... saw it... not much to it... but as others have said, great that Bill is on to it and drawing some public attention to it.

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/06/10/New-Film-The-Purge-A-Slam-on-NRA-Tea-Party-Movement

'The Purge' Slams NRA and Tea Party, Summons Thoughts of Trayvon Martin

The new Ethan Hawke thriller The Purge was number one at the box office during its opening weekend, but critics are slamming the film for its thinly veiled commentary...

[...]

Hawke himself acknowledges the film's social commentary, saying that much of the content can be interpreted in a variety of ways. The actor draws a distinct line, though, about one sequence in the film:

  • It’s a very strange oxymoron — the movie is an extremely violent film with an extremely anti-violent message. I mean, if you watch the actor Edwin Hodge run through a gated community [while] being shot at and not think of Trayvon Martin, then you’re missing the point of the movie.

The Purge, made for a measly $3 million, took in $34 million in its first weekend of release.

Could Sybrina just mail him a trash can, with her schedule so busy now?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:55 pm 
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kbp wrote:
If, just after the confrontation started…

…George saw Trayvon reach for a gun and shot him in response, what would his defense be?
or
…Trayvon saw George reach for a gun and shot him in response, what would his defense be?

Is it possible for Bernie to somehow point out that George might not be correct in his guess at when Trayvon first saw his gun, it might have happened before the attack?


AFAICS, these are non-issues. (Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you...)

If, just after the confrontation started, GZ saw TM reach for his gun and shot him in response, he wouldn't have got beaten up so badly. Since we know that GZ did sustain injuries at TM's hands, obviously TM didn't get shot as a result of reaching for the gun just after the confrontation started (i.e., when words were being exchanged).

If TM saw GZ reach for a gun and shot him in response...well, it didn't happen and even BDLR can't claim it happened, so no need to consider that scenario.

As to your last point (if BDLR argues that GZ is mistaken about when TM saw the gun), even if TM saw GZ's gun as GZ fell after being punched in the nose, the gun would still have been holstered; and since GZ (not being Superman) was stunned from the punch, TM had no reason to fear imminent deadly attack from a guy lying on the ground with his nose broken and his gun in its holster, so even in those circ's, his assault on GZ would have been criminal.

That's not to say that BDLR won't try to argue anything and everything that he thinks might sway a jury, and we certainly can't count on "Judge" Nelson to rein in his flights of fancy, but he has absolutely no EVIDENCE to support such theories, and hopefully at least one person on the jury will have enough commonsense to see through his attempts at a snow job.


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Could Sybrina just mail him a trash can, with her schedule so busy now?


She probably wants to know why she wasn't invited to make a grand entrance at the movie's premiere, like Vivien Leigh appearing at the opening night of "Gone With the Wind". 'Cos it's all about Ms. Candy, isn't it, and how brave and noble she's being. She's probably deeply offended at not being invited to appear in the movie herself. :stamp


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Zimmerman: Robert Zimmerman on Piers Morgan 6-11-13


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Piers Morgan is an expert at being penny wise and pound foolish, a walking talking bumper sticker that says "common sense, you are either born with it or you don't have it"


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