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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:17 pm 
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From ABC News? Somebody's nervous......... :wall

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/trayvon ... y-19346403
It's apparently from the phone records... so State has had it a while.

Perhaps it is part of the reason that BDLR hid the phone analysis.

It makes Nelson's decision to NOT continue inquiry into BDLR look even more corrupt

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:18 pm 
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Judge leafing through, employing her Evelyn Woods speed reading, all the while thinking how she can continue screwing the defense.


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Rumpole wrote:

It's apparently from the phone records... so State has had it a while.

Perhaps it is part of the reason that BDLR hid the phone analysis.

It makes Nelson's decision to NOT continue inquiry into BDLR look even more corrupt



Of course you're right. :TF

Time to officially complain about Nelson.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:25 pm 
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Dr. Alan R. Reich, Speech Scientist

Alan R. Reich is a former professor from the University of Washington who received his PhD in “speech science.” Dr. Reich has sporadically published scientific articles on various aspects of human acoustics from the mid-1970s to the early-1990s.
Dr. Reich was retained by the Washington Post newspaper to analyze the recording. The Post reports that he has been involved in hundreds of criminal and civil cases for more than 35 years.

In this case he used Sony Sound Forge Pro and KayPentax Multi-Speech software to apply spectrographic methods, creating colorful visual representations of the audio recording.

The analysis he produced of the witness 911 recording is amazingly detailed. He says that he hears the younger of the two men yell, “I’m begging you,” 26 seconds later, “Help me,” and in the last second before the gunshot, “Stop!” Analyzing the pitch of that last word he concluded that it was “highly appropriate for a 17-year-old” Trayvon rather than the 28-year-old Zimmerman. He concludes: “It was Trayvon who felt threatened. The help cries are all Trayvon.”

Since the Washington Post article was published Reich has also been retained by the prosecution. He now claims to have heard even more detail in the recording, in the form of Zimmerman uttering the pseudo-religious proclamation, “These shall be.”

Awkwardly, the same Washington Post article also features James J. Ryan, the retired head of the FBI’s forensic audio analysis unit, who states that it’s not possible to determine the age of the person screaming—and, by extension, whether it was Martin or Zimmerman—by measuring the frequency or pitch of the scream. He states:

“To my knowledge, there are no scientific studies of pitch as an indicator or anything else in a scream that would give someone confidence to say how old somebody was,” he said.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:25 pm 
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:95 What was that Judge Nelson? I can't get those emails. :59


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:27 pm 
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Is it just me or can anyone else picture this guy as senile.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:30 pm 
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Now that ABC has found a sample of Trayvon's voice, can't it be compared? Does the defense even know there is a sample?

Is this expert drunk?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:30 pm 
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forensicpsy wrote:
From ABC News? Somebody's nervous......... :wall

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/trayvon ... y-19346403
Rumpole wrote:
It's apparently from the phone records... so State has had it a while.

Perhaps it is part of the reason that BDLR hid the phone analysis.

It makes Nelson's decision to NOT continue inquiry into BDLR look even more corrupt

That would should be a major issue if true.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:31 pm 
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Judge leafing through, employing her Evelyn Woods speed reading, all the while thinking how she can continue screwing the defense.



:84

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bias n. the predisposition of a judge, arbitrator, prospective juror, or anyone making a judicial decision, against or in favor of one of the parties or a class of persons. This can be shown by remarks, decisions contrary to fact, reason or law, or other unfair conduct. Bias can be toward an ethnic group, homosexuals, women or men, defendants or plaintiffs, large corporations, or local parties. Getting a "hometown" decision is a form of bias which is the bane of the out-of-town lawyer. There is also the subtle bias of some male judges in favor of pretty women. Obvious bias is a ground for reversal on appeal, but it is hard to prove, since judges are usually careful to display apparent fairness in their comments. The possibility of juror bias is explored in questioning at the beginning of trial in a questioning process called "voir dire."


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:32 pm 
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Amanda Ober AmandaOberWESH 5m
Reich has claimed he can identify Trayvon yelling "I'm begging" "Stop". #georgezimmerman

Amanda Ober AmandaOberWESH 6m
Up now is Dr. Alan Reich. Voice analysis expert for the state who says it's definitely Trayvon screaming on 911 call


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If this guy can't hear what someone is saying now; how in the world could he hear phantom phrases on the #Zimmerman 911 call?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:34 pm 
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Is this guy going to make it through the call? He sounds like he is on his deathbed.


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Remote wrote:
Richard Hornsby RichardHornsby 2m
If this guy can't hear what someone is saying now; how in the world could he hear phantom phrases on the #Zimmerman 911 call?

Hornsby just won this hearing! I hope West says something exactly like this.


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Is this guy going to make it through the call? He sounds like he is on his deathbed.

You mean he's not??? :60


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:36 pm 
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" Are you familiar with aural"

Narrowly avoided a heart attack by stressing it was "aural" not "oral"


The old fart seems to be as deaf as a post :lol

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Wild About Trial WildAboutTrial 2m
Dr. Reich explains what processes he used and how he went about analyzes the audio from the call.

Wild About Trial WildAboutTrial 5m
Dr. Reich saw the controversy going on in the #Zimmerman case over the internet and became interested in it initially.


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A couple of "I can't hear you's", a couple of "whats", and now he can't even hear Judge Nelson. Too bad this hearing can't be used to demonstrate that the critical listening specialist (Reich) can't hear.


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forensicpsy wrote:

bias n. the predisposition of a judge, arbitrator, prospective juror, or anyone making a judicial decision, against or in favor of one of the parties or a class of persons. This can be shown by remarks, decisions contrary to fact, reason or law, or other unfair conduct. Bias can be toward an ethnic group, homosexuals, women or men, defendants or plaintiffs, large corporations, or local parties. Getting a "hometown" decision is a form of bias which is the bane of the out-of-town lawyer. There is also the subtle bias of some male judges in favor of pretty women. Obvious bias is a ground for reversal on appeal, but it is hard to prove, since judges are usually careful to display apparent fairness in their comments. The possibility of juror bias is explored in questioning at the beginning of trial in a questioning process called "voir dire."

Think I'll send this definition to the handy email link you provided!


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Mixed Reviews for Audio Forensics 'Expert'
Alan Reich

http://whonoze.wordpress.com/2012/06/07 ... reich-44/t


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