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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:42 pm 
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Isn't it funny that Trayvon never mentioned to DD that GZ was on the phone? Nowhere does she testify that Trayvon told her GZ was on the phone. GZ was on the phone for a good long time, including while Trayvon circled his vehicle, yet not even a mention of that.

Yes. And, I don't know if it matters, but GZ never mention that Trayvon looked like he was on the phone, either.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:58 pm 
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Some business owners say they are still feeling the pain from the bad press the city got as the case unfolded.The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford has become better known as the scene of the Trayvon Martin shooting.“When people think of Orlando, they think of Disney World, but when people think of Sanford now, they think of Trayvon Martin and the killing that happened there," said attorney Justin Clark.Clark has helped clients in this neighborhood handle their short sales. He says the homes are nearly impossible to sell.“The only people buying in there it seems to us, are people who don’t know what happened,” Clark said

And, whose fault is that? If the police had been left to handle things correctly, there would have been much less, if any, bad press. But, now, people are afraid of riots and all the bad stuff that goes with them. I think, truthfully, they can thank Miss Nasty Jac and her mother, Francis (or Francine) for a lot of the damage to Sanford's reputation.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:10 pm 
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Are we to understand that Rene herself has seen this video clip (and if so, who showed it to her when the public hasn't been allowed to see it?), or is she relying on what the Scheme Team are telling her that it shows?


That sounds like a good possibility and would account for it being pulled.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:22 pm 
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A larger part of Rene's article, still cached by Google, is as follows:
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Video released today by George Zimmerman's trial attorneys depicts what they say is Trayvon Martin laughing while he video-records a fight between two homeless men. It shows something far different than what defense attorney Mark O'Mara described during a hearing Tuesday. Back then, he told Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson that it was Trayvon making a video-recording of his buddies "beating up a homeless guy." But what the video shows is Trayvon and a friend encountering two homeless men who are fighting over a bicycle. Trayvon moves closer and records the fight and while he does, can be heard laughing. Trayvon is the unarmed black 17-year-old that Zimmerman, a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, fatally shot in Sanford Feb. 26, 2012.
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Apparently the media can take positions when it suits them.

Will Rene be very, very busy now that she has decided to check what the attorneys have said for accuracy?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:26 pm 
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Ottawa925 wrote:
Isn't it funny that Trayvon never mentioned to DD that GZ was on the phone? Nowhere does she testify that Trayvon told her GZ was on the phone. GZ was on the phone for a good long time, including while Trayvon circled his vehicle, yet not even a mention of that.

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Yes. And, I don't know if it matters, but GZ never mention that Trayvon looked like he was on the phone, either.

In the late hours on a cloudy, rainy evening, how could an observer tell if a dark skinned person wearing a dark hoodie had a live phone connection by way of head phones?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:35 pm 
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Will Rene be very, very busy now that she has decided to check what the attorneys have said for accuracy?


I'd also like her to stop adding the adjective "black" to her description of TM...we know already...give it up...


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:09 pm 
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Ottawa925 wrote:

Looking to see where someone went and following are two different things IMO and this has been screwed up by many including MOM six ways from Sunday.

and an explanation of what is necessary to prove Murder2.



"Following" is Crump's word. There are many meanings to the word "following."

In this case, GZ was "observing" Trayvon until the police came.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:56 pm 
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 8187.story

Trayvon Martin's parents expect 'rough road' at murder trial


The high-profile trial for their son's killer in Seminole County is a week away.

And Trayvon Martin's parents expect a "rough road" during George Zimmerman's second-degree-murder trial in Sanford.

Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin joined their attorney, Benjamin Crump, as roughly 300 people gathered for the Community Program of Peace, Justice and Prayer on Saturday afternoon at Bethel Apostolic Temple in Miami.

"We're going to have to sit through all the negativity," Tracy Martin said during an emotional prayer service.

He was referring to defense attorney Mark O'Mara's attempts to cast his son as an aggressor whose actions more than a year ago prompted Zimmerman to fire in self-defense.

more at link


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:06 am 
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... ory?page=1

George Zimmerman trial will bring media village, public-assembly area

SANFORD — With the George Zimmerman murder trial just one week away, a village of satellite TV trucks is about to pop up outside the Seminole County criminal courthouse.

For months, courthouse personnel and others have been getting ready for what's expected to be one of the most-watched trials of the year and the biggest in Seminole County history.

Mostly, they've tried to figure out how to prepare for the crush of people expected to descend on the 215,000-square-foot building once Zimmerman's second-degree-murder trial begins June 10.

more at link


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:16 am 
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New George Zimmerman donations video i put together. Let's get this think viral! Go Team GZ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvyqTfABA4E


Edit Rumpole.
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Adding Donate links

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:17 am 
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The greiving mother had actually kicked Trayvon out of her home three times in the last four months of his life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0b9xDhWocg




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I did the business to embed your YT's
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:34 am 
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The handwriting of decline was on the wall when they surrendered the police station to the mob before melting the barrels of M60s and expending all remaining ammo.


Exactly. This is just like the flight of the able people out of the inner cities.

When it is apparent that your government and law enforcement won't be able to contain the criminal element, it is time to move to an area where safety is more of a priority than garnering votes. It is truly a shame for the people there who can't get out.


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I hope there's some explanation why this differs from what MOM said. MOM knew this video would be made public and if wrong, will open him up to critizism.


I do too. I can't imagine why he would do this knowing it would cause people to doubt anything else he would say.

This type of exaggeration and downright lying is exactly why no one takes anything Crump or the prosecution says seriously. They have a history of misrepresenting the truth or taking evidence out of context.

I hope we will get to see the video to judge for ourselves.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:46 am 
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"Following" is Crump's word. There are many meanings to the word "following."

In this case, GZ was "observing" Trayvon until the police came.


I have never found it strange that Mr. Zimmerman was trying to keep a sight line of Mr. Martin in order to tell the police the direction. If possible, that is what everyone does.


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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-trayvon-martin-peace-miami-20130601,0,1898187.story

Trayvon Martin's parents expect 'rough road' at murder trial


The high-profile trial for their son's killer in Seminole County is a week away.

And Trayvon Martin's parents expect a "rough road" during George Zimmerman's second-degree-murder trial in Sanford.

Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin joined their attorney, Benjamin Crump, as roughly 300 people gathered for the Community Program of Peace, Justice and Prayer on Saturday afternoon at Bethel Apostolic Temple in Miami.

"We're going to have to sit through all the negativity," Tracy Martin said during an emotional prayer service.

He was referring to defense attorney Mark O'Mara's attempts to cast his son as an aggressor whose actions more than a year ago prompted Zimmerman to fire in self-defense.

more at link



Sometimes this kind of thing amuses me. This is like the Justice Department working with black ministers in the area and giving them four seats to maintain peace.

Why is it when they assume it is normal that a certain group won't be able to control themselves if a verdict doesn't go their way it is okay and yet when someone else is suspicious of a person from a certain group they are being racist? It really does make you wonder if even they believe their own hype. LOL


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The spin is starting. But OMG! Look at Tracy's new trial look. :94

"Trayvon Martin's Family Braced for Rough Road as Trial Starts"

From the article:

"The case has thrust the slain teen's parents into a high-profile role that both of them conceded Saturday they would have preferred to avoid.

"I would have rather gone back to my job with my same two kids, to my same house," said Sybrina Fulton, her voice shaking as she stood on stage before a silent audience. But Fulton said she had long since accepted her role as the mother of a son whose untimely death had sparked cries for justice.

"I no longer have any regrets and say, 'Why me?' because God decided it was me," she said.

Crump and Martin's parents said they were confident no matter how long the trial lasts, Zimmerman would be found guilty.

"Not on emotion, not on innuendo," Crump roared into the microphone as the crowd shouted back in approval. "Just on the evidence. The evidence is clear as day."


http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 9063.story


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forensicpsy wrote:
"The case has thrust the slain teen's parents into a high-profile role that both of them conceded Saturday they would have preferred to avoid.

Yes, I thought it was rather tacky of Crump to kidnap them and take them to London, LA, New York City, etc. Oh, wait...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:40 am 
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SKEWER the black ministers urging people to remain calm! Call out the National Guard and be done with it!
Oh, wait...Gov Scooter has that authority---SKEWER that recourse. O'Bummer can and could over-ride
Whimp-o-dite Scooter and take control of the Guard. (See Gov Kathleen Blanco and Katrina) Oh, wait...this is his son we are talking about here. SKEWER that recourse.

Cedar Grove, Shreveport, Louisiana
In September 1988 there was a full-blown riot in which the police were forced to block off the entire neighborhood because it was out of control. Cars and businesses were burned. The rioting continued for two days, stemming from an incident when a white woman had a drug deal go wrong, then she shot at a black man but accidentally hit a small child and killed him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedar_Gro ... _Louisiana

I lived in S'port during that riot; Cedar Grove was the city's ghetto. LE finally gave up trying to quell the riots and barricaded 12 city blocks. No one came out and no one went in until they burned themselves out, literally and psychologically and emotionally.

The woman was arrested at the crime scene. Charged with Murder. Did that assuage the masses? Oh, He// NO. Any excuse for a riot is a good one. I never have figured out WHY they rioted. I mean, the police arrested and charged her. As Howie so often says, "Ahhh dunno."

Again, just call out the Guard and be done with it!


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Isn't it funny that Trayvon never mentioned to DD that GZ was on the phone?


It is actually quite curious that the DD script DOES includes Trayvon telling DD that the man was on the phone. Why is that so strange?

1. GZ was actually parked on the opposite side of the clubhouse from the mail shed thing where DD says that Trayvon was sheltering from the rain when he observed the man with the phone.

2. It was dark. There is a video on youtube with a walkthru at night. I think it was done by marinade dave. Dark as fuark that night.

Stately McDaniel Manor Transcript of April 2 DD interview by BDLR:

Dee Dee: The phone hung up, and I call him back again.

BDLR: OK, and then what happened? What did he tell you?

Dee Dee: He under the shade.

BDLR: OK..

Dee Dee: …the mail area.

BDLR: Alright, OK, and you say shade, like a covered area…

Dee Dee: Yeah…

BDLR: …so he wouldn’t get wet.

Dee Dee: Mmm hmm [Yes].

. . . .

BDLR: What did he say about the man who was watching him…

Dee Dee: He was on the phone.

BDLR: He was on the phone?

Dee Dee: Yeah.

BDLR: OK, and what did Trayvon say after that?

Dee Dee: He was telling me like…like he a man watching him, so he like started walking.

BDLR: He, Trayvon, started walking?

Dee Dee: He goin’ start walking.


Imo, this is all concocted BS. BTW where is the missing 2/26 GPS data? Does that data present a huge problem for the Trayvon loitering under the mail shed thing story?


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