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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:31 pm 
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By "small amount of time", you mean the entire time from the end of Zimmerman's NEN call recording until the beginning of the first 911 call recording - in other words, the entire relevant time frame. No amount of evidence suppression can possibly provide that which does not exist: any evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman was the initial physical aggressor, that Zimmerman was doing anything otherwise unlawful, or that Zimmerman was not justified in using deadly force in self-defense.

In a fair trial, this entire case still boils down to the defense presenting the ample evidence to corroborate a self-defense claim, and the State having zilch to refute that claim. In a fair trial, none of the State's specious allegations, innuendo, speculation, or theoretical timeline of events would be admissible, since no evidence exists to support any of it. In a fair trial, after the State presents its case, the defense would move to acquit due to lack of evidence to convict, and the judge would grant it, with extreme prejudice.


Exactly. The state still has no case.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:38 pm 
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Which of Judge Nelson's rulings thus far has led you to believe that she is capable of making fair decisions based on relevant case law in this case? Seems she will rule however CRS drafts the ruling for her to me, and they to this point seem quite unconcerned with whether or not the rulings are fair, or legal.


I may be wrong, but if the opening of the door is blatant enough, she might just rule properly. Cameras are on her too.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:43 pm 
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I am stunned that Don West would make the mistake he did about the jury being sequestered. What on earth was he thinking?


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I may be wrong, but if the opening of the door is blatant enough, she might just rule properly. Cameras are on her too.


I hope you are right, but the Brady violations and motions for sanctions were both obvious and blatant, and she tossed them aside. Not to mention, you now have SA's accusing the Special Prosecutor of Brady violations and you decide to hear their testimony 3 days before the trial is to start? A)How can she know the extent of the evidence withheld, and thus assure it has all been provided, and B) How can she do this the last business day before the trial? You would think that accusations of that magnitude, which could easily be grounds for a mistrial would be addressed on an ASAP basis......the Defense cannot know what they don't know, so I would think it especially relevant.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:01 pm 
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I thought she was going to hear the rest of the SA evidence on Friday?


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I am stunned that Don West would make the mistake he did about the jury being sequestered. What on earth was he thinking?


I was too since I was posting they were sequestered.


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I thought she was going to hear the rest of the SA evidence on Friday?


Either the 6th or 7th depending on witness availability. She wants to hear from another witness.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:21 pm 
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jordan2 wrote:
I am stunned that Don West would make the mistake he did about the jury being sequestered. What on earth was he thinking?


I am stunned that Nelson conducted a closed hearing in violation of Florida's Sunshine Law.

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http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/5/23 ... der-Sought


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:27 pm 
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Nelson might rule properly, and I might get a royal flush.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:28 pm 
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jordan2 wrote:
I am stunned that Don West would make the mistake he did about the jury being sequestered. What on earth was he thinking?


Francining?

I am stunned that something so petty got Nelson's panties all bunched up.. yet she hears about blatant discovery violations and attempts to hide evidence.... and is unaffected.

She is more concerned with correct seating arrangements for trial than she is about ensuring a fair trial for GZ.

I think her vocation was as an events organiser (like Casey Anthony) rather than a Judge.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:29 pm 
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Nelson might rule properly, and I might get a royal flush.


Or Nelson may get a hot flush and rule properly by mistake.

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Heads up all. According to CTH ... Alan Dershowitz will be on Piers Morgan TONIGHT on CNN discussing the Trayvon Martin case. woohoo !!!


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:18 pm 
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What could be the reason they won't take the jury to the site? Only video? Why?
I think it's best for them to see - what is. No?


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:24 pm 
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I can't help but be a bit fed up.

I keep waiting for "The US Justice System" to click in. "The Constitution" and the rights of US citizens to be heralded, but........

*CRICKETS*

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Discouraging isn't it, I can only imagine how George and his family feel. What a sad state of events.

I hope Alan Dershowitz has something to say in favor of George.


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Posted at Nettles blog:


Zimmerman’s team put an outside lawyer on the stand, Wesley White, who testified that photos from Martin’s cellphone were never shared with them. White, who resigned as a state prosecutor in December and is now in private practice, represents the state attorney’s office’s information-technology director, Ben Kruidbos, who will be called to testify June 6 about the allegedly withheld images.
White told NBC News that Kruidbos was placed on administrative leave Tuesday and considers himself a “whistleblower” under Florida law. Kruidbos was grilled by staff in the state attorney’s office twice, either to learn what he planned to testify about or possibly to “bully him,” White told NBC.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05 ... trial?lite

This should be the headline...Bombshell...


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:47 pm 
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Joni wrote:
What could be the reason they won't take the jury to the site? Only video? Why?
I think it's best for them to see - what is. No?


The thought of a big hooded black thug jumping out of the bushes on a dark night on a very dimly lit walkway would scare the crap out of many jurors, even black jurors. Also it makes it too obvious that Trayvon would have made it home to Brandi's house unless he was waiting in ambush.

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Tonight at 9: Both lawyers from the Trayvon Martin case, the "Bee" adds vocab., and Ben Ferguson on "The Grill"

On a day which has seen George Zimmerman lose a handful of potentially critical pretrial motions, this evening Piers Morgan welcomes a collection of the case's significant players.

Mark O’Mara, Zimmerman's attorney, and Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Trayvon Martin's family, will each return to "Piers Morgan Live" for one-on-one interviews, while legal experts and decorated courtroom veterans Gloria Allred and Alan Dershowitz will supply all the relevant insight and context as part of Tuesday evening's "Law and Disorder" segment.
http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/28/


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"Mark O’Mara, Zimmerman's attorney, and Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Trayvon Martin's family, will each return to "Piers Morgan Live" for one-on-one interviews"

PM: How can you justify attempting to get a child murderer off the hook? Do you sleep at night?

MOM: Well, ah, er, duh.

PM: OK, thanks Mr. O'Mara, I have to move on now.

PM: Welcome Mr. Crump. Tell me about the difficulties you have faced, the obstacles you have surmounted in bringing this gun wielding rabid vigilante child murderer to justice.

Crump: blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. . . . . .blah, blah, blah. . . .blah, blah, blah. . . .

PM: Very interesting, truly heroic. The entire hour has evaporated during Mr. Crump's fascinating story. I'm sorry Mr. Dershowitz, we're out of time.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 7:05 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Posted at Nettles blog:


Zimmerman’s team put an outside lawyer on the stand, Wesley White, who testified that photos from Martin’s cellphone were never shared with them. White, who resigned as a state prosecutor in December and is now in private practice, represents the state attorney’s office’s information-technology director, Ben Kruidbos, who will be called to testify June 6 about the allegedly withheld images.
White told NBC News that Kruidbos was placed on administrative leave Tuesday and considers himself a “whistleblower” under Florida law. Kruidbos was grilled by staff in the state attorney’s office twice, either to learn what he planned to testify about or possibly to “bully him,” White told NBC.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05 ... trial?lite

This should be the headline...Bombshell...


Bombshell? I think not.... as I posted at CTH....

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May 28, 2013 at 6:50 pm

It’s just stuff about TM’s character that has been ruled inadmissible anyway… Bernie was quite right to not bother telling Defense about it. State has no intention of using it at trial…… it’s not exculpatory .. apparently? So NOT “Discovery” stuff.
The “little bit drippin’ lies” that BDLR told to Nelson in court was just Bernie forgetting stuff again.. and Nelson wont mind anyway.

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