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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:04 am 
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I found the mugshot and rap sheet. ORGANIZED FRAUD and GRAND THEFT FELONIES !!! and she is an associate of NatJack? Nice ppl they run with.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:33 am 
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"Sources" tell me she has a long standing "personal" beef with GZ as well... but I am not at liberty to reveal details..... yet.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:23 am 
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Rumpole wrote:
"Sources" tell me she has a long standing "personal" beef with GZ as well... but I am not at liberty to reveal details..... yet.



ok there, Sundance :86


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:39 am 
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John Galt, thank you for taking the time to reply to the points in Leatherface's piece that I posted the other day. Jordan told me you responded and I first now finished reading. He's such a douche. :46


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:06 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
"Sources" tell me she has a long standing "personal" beef with GZ as well... but I am not at liberty to reveal details..... yet.

I was under the impression that it is her dog that caused George to purchase his gun.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:20 pm 
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Yes... that is what I was alluding to... a series of incidents.. common sort of neighbour disputes... trespass.. disturbing the peace....LE called etc.
( I was shown documents and proof in confidence)

Only it seems she has never let it go.... she is out to see GZ done for Murder as revenge for that nonsense.

I have never seen her reveal to her dog pack that she has that petty ulterior motive. She is using them to help her with this petty vendetta. I doubt Bakerprune is aware of that? Maybe if she was, she would not have been so willing to go along with Bigboi's advice on how to run JQ (cynical manipulation)... JQ may not have gone down the toilet?

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Even though it seems like it wasn't a good day for the defense, I think all these motions really limit what the state can use in their case. They can't use most of the narrative because that will open the door for the defense. So what do they have left...he should have staying in his car? And let's not forget dear DD, I think we've seen so many areas where she will be impeached, her testimony will prove a detriment to the state.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:30 pm 
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Continued from the hearing discussion thread: I had no clue Robert Zimmerman Jr was gay. So that's been the Alinsky tactic against him speaking out the truth: to denigrate him for his sexual orientation? Martin supporters are even more depraved and hypocritical than I thought. I'm sure they thought highly of themselves for their coup in "outing" (see also: doxing) Robert.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:30 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Even though it seems like it wasn't a good day for the defense, I think all these motions really limit what the state can use in their case. They can't use most of the narrative because that will open the door for the defense. So what do they have left...he should have staying in his car? And let's not forget dear DD, I think we've seen so many areas where she will be impeached, her testimony will prove a detriment to the state.

I take your point about that positive view, but.........

The over-riding negative is NELSON

She will not acknowledge still the obfuscation by State, if not blatant manipulation and hiding of evidence.

Waiting for Nelson to "get it" is futile... I can not muster any hope for things improving at trial.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:32 pm 
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chipbennett wrote:
Continued from the hearing discussion thread: I had no clue Robert Zimmerman Jr was gay. So that's been the Alinsky tactic against him speaking out the truth: to denigrate him for his sexual orientation? Martin supporters are even more depraved and hypocritical than I thought. I'm sure they thought highly of themselves for their coup in "outing" (see also: doxing) Robert.


There was a lot of posting and twittering about him being Gay. I didn't pay much attention... I did take it too be true and common knowledge?

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:35 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
From GZ Legal Site

http://www.gzlegalcase.com/

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DEFENDANT'S REPLY TO STATE'S MOTION IN LIMINE REGARDING SELF-SERVING HEARSAY STATEMENTS OF DEFENDANT
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/05 ... earsay.pdf

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Minus all of GZ's statements to LE and DD's testimony, what do they have left?

or am I misunderstanding this?


So where will her ruling leave GZ on this issue?

or maybe the question should be what Bernie will be left with?


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flgirl543 wrote:
Even though it seems like it wasn't a good day for the defense, I think all these motions really limit what the state can use in their case. They can't use most of the narrative because that will open the door for the defense. So what do they have left...he should have staying in his car? And let's not forget dear DD, I think we've seen so many areas where she will be impeached, her testimony will prove a detriment to the state.



I was thinking that myself. The state has to be very careful about opening the door in some way. There still is a small amount of time the state can't account for in the case. There is nothing they have that disproves what GZ says about walking back to his car when attacked. They have no witnesses etc. Unless I've missed something.


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There still is a small amount of time the state can't account for in the case. There is nothing they have that disproves what GZ says about walking back to his car when attacked. They have no witnesses ect. Unless I've missed something.


By "small amount of time", you mean the entire time from the end of Zimmerman's NEN call recording until the beginning of the first 911 call recording - in other words, the entire relevant time frame. No amount of evidence suppression can possibly provide that which does not exist: any evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman was the initial physical aggressor, that Zimmerman was doing anything otherwise unlawful, or that Zimmerman was not justified in using deadly force in self-defense.

In a fair trial, this entire case still boils down to the defense presenting the ample evidence to corroborate a self-defense claim, and the State having zilch to refute that claim. In a fair trial, none of the State's specious allegations, innuendo, speculation, or theoretical timeline of events would be admissible, since no evidence exists to support any of it. In a fair trial, after the State presents its case, the defense would move to acquit due to lack of evidence to convict, and the judge would grant it, with extreme prejudice.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:54 pm 
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Agreed.

But in THIS trial... who knows?

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chipbennett wrote:
Continued from the hearing discussion thread: I had no clue Robert Zimmerman Jr was gay.


Yeah, you never can tell these days. Some people say that Bieber is straight.

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Rumpole wrote:
Agreed.

But in THIS trial... who knows?


Nelson knows because she has script to follow and it already has the ending in it.


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Rumpole wrote:
I take your point about that positive view, but.........

The over-riding negative is NELSON

She will not acknowledge still the obfuscation by State, if not blatant manipulation and hiding of evidence.

Waiting for Nelson to "get it" is futile... I can not muster any hope for things improving at trial.


I thought they were having a hearing on the 6th or 7th. regarding hiding the evidence. The judge wants the other witness. No decision was made on the state's 911 analysis either. I think that's an important issue.

Also, if the door is opened, Nelson will have to make the right decision. I believe she would.


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Did y'all see Sunny Hostin laughing it up with Crump et al after the hearing?

She's a reporter FGS. She also looks like he!!.

These people have no shame. :blush


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murderbythebook wrote:
Also, if the door is opened, Nelson will have to make the right decision. I believe she would.


Which of Judge Nelson's rulings thus far has led you to believe that she is capable of making fair decisions based on relevant case law in this case? Seems she will rule however CRS drafts the ruling for her to me, and they to this point seem quite unconcerned with whether or not the rulings are fair, or legal.


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Speaking of the CRS, why have we not seen nor heard anything further about the information which Nelson did allow be subpoenaed? Is this some gentlemen's agreement with the State that CRS involvement will not be mentioned? That would have to be disclosed in reciprocal discovery, wouldn't it?


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