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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:02 am 
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I am sad to report Ryan is clearly about to show his "true colors" if you know what I mean. I really liked the guy until I heard him teasing for his upcoming show on Zimmerman. And then that mess today with him and Crump, then him and O'Mara, sealed the deal.


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I didn't get to see any of it... Does anyone have a link to it? Sorry, I don't have cable.


Deb..... :fish

a YT vid is posted just a few posts back up this page

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:12 am 
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Walther... GZLegal bandwidth exceeded at the moment... but I did download some of the pdf's

I see what you mean... ends abruptly.

I fixed my copy :cool

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:15 am 
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Hehehe ..yeah that'll do ....fixed it for them :slap


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Deb..... :fish

a YT vid is posted just a few posts back up this page


Listen here OBI-WAN! You best not hit me with that fish one more time! :neener

I watched at Nettles. :Gslap

Sunshine Laws...what's not to love about them? Did TM supporters actually think that there would be no Reciprocal Discovery from the Defense? Did they forget about that part? L-freaking-O-freaking-L!


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So why is the original photo in evidence of the sweatshirt different from the one we saw in the 3rd?


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:56 am 
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Different in what ways?

The pics just released (I assume) are from when MOM and West visited FDLE themselves.. to see what evidence was there.

I assume they took their own snaps!

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:24 am 
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May 23, 2013 at 11:04 pm

Here’s the worst part about all of this recent stuff…

For a long time I really tried to give the parents and family in general the benefit of the doubt, and a lot of slack. I reserved most of my ire for Crump, Julison, and the media.

I told myself well, yes they are going along with the deception but I bet Crump framed it as justice for their son and “just seeking answers” and he smooth talked them into being okay with it, because early things they said here and there showed glimmers of not being bad people. Things like “I see humanity in [Zimmerman]” and “I do believe it was an accident” etc.

But what is finally clicking into place in my mind is that I have been far too generous with these parents. They’ve had over a year to have their “Come to Jesus” moment and call off the dogs. They weren’t just unwitting participants, either… they knew what kind of kid Trayvon had become. They knew enough to kick him out of their houses, to send him places with the expressed goal of “straightening him out” – the long and short of it is, they knew that what GZ described him doing was ENTIRELY in keeping with recent behavior on their son’s part.

And yet they still pursued a path that not only, if successful, would put an innocent man, already victimized by their out of control son, into prison for years…. but even if unsuccessful would ruin him and his family’s lives in the meantime. A path that, whether successful or not… was increasingly obviously going to generate riots. Remember the guy barely clinging to life who was beaten into a coma by Trayvonites? Remember the hammer attack in Sanford? The police car shot up? The Virginian Pilot reporters mobbed in their car and beaten? The flash robs triggered by this case? And I predict the worst is yet to come, by far.

Yet, they still have not used their ready-made public platform to come out and just admit what Trayvon was like… what he had been doing. They’ve actively hidden it. They could’ve done so much more good by speaking directly to other parents, particularly black parents, about how quickly this thug culture can turn a good kid into a thug. They could’ve made all this public spotlight a referendum on parenting and a discussion about telling kids in that community to keep their hands to themselves, etc.

Opportunity missed. And as I look again at the pictures of his parents… with the rose tattoo or getting drunk at middle age out clubbing and pursuing strippers… I realize these are perpetual adolescents, in a society that has encouraged adulthood to be delayed or foregone entirely. They’re a particularly bad example, because they’re just clever enough to convincingly lie about it to a casual observer.

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:43 am 
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Mark O’Mara Files Another Motion for Sanctions Against The State for Discovery Violations…
Posted on May 24, 2013 by sundance

At this point in the pre-trial discovery this latest motion by the defense, seeking sanctions against the State Prosecutors, is, unfortunately, really just an exercise in futility.

Is the State of Florida manipulating discovery? Yes. Are they failing to release Brady Material? Yes. Is their action intentional and willful? Yes. Should it be stopped? Yes.

Does Judge Nelson care? No.

DUH! Keep in mind this is the same Prosecution team that is fully aware the entire construct of the Witness 8 narrative is a total fraud. Do you really think, contrasted against that reality, they are worried about holding back a little discovery showing St. Skittles donning a halo while holding twin .40 cal’s naked in a bathtub of crystal meth surrounded by twenty sumfin’ naked bootilicious twerkers ? Seriously…..

….One word for ya – Lettitgo !

Meanwhile Bernie De La Rionda is trying for the 3rd time to stuff a gag order in the mouth of Mark O’Mara, and has simultaneously filed to keep the results of George’s successful voice stress analysis out of evidence.

So according to Bernie De La Rionda (The State of Florida):

  • The police cannot talk about how cooperative George was (hearsay).
  • The Police cannot talk about the construct of the case (hearsay).
  • Defense Experts cannot be allowed to talk about evidence (prejudicial).
  • The results of George’s “lie detector” stress test should not be allowed (inadmissible).
  • Nothing about Trayvon criminal records should be allowed (irrelevant).
  • The Toxicology report from Trayvon showing Drug use should not be allowed (irrelevant).
  • The financial motives of the Martin family should not be allowed (irrelevant).
  • Social media texts or twitters from Trayvon Martin should not be allowed (irrelevant).
  • Pictures of Trayvon Martin should not be allowed (irrelevant).
  • The case must be rushed to trial (no continuance)
  • Mark O’Mara should not be allowed to talk – But Ben Crump is ok (Gag Order).
  • Benjamin Crump cannot be deposed for the evidence he presented/constructed and/or manufactured. (“co-counsel of sorts” conflict)

Meanwhile the information about George Zimmerman leaving pre-k with the unauthorized violet colored crayon, unknown button, a rubber band and one half of a Captain America Pez dispenser in his pocket demands to be heard….

….. This, from the same felonious second grader, ‘Tugboat’, who forgot his gym sneakers and now must accept a sworn statement from the custodian who saw him hide behind the cafeteria dumpster to avoid PE…..

…..And let their be no doubt of his dubious nature we will soon hear the desperate pleas from the crew of slighted Trick or Treaters circa That Infamous Halloween 2004 – and how those who suffered deserve judicial representation, and even protection from retaliation. Licorice anything is not an acceptable variance of sweets, their voices cry to be heard…..

I mean fo REALZ !

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Given the FALSE picture of TM that has been IMPRINTED on people, I think its important to post daily more realistic photos.

I think a critical aspect of the false narrative that has been imprinted is that TM was a CHILD... when clearly he was not.

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Been busy following another trial so my attention to this case has been minimal...this is probably a dumb question, but that photo of a gun, is that really Trayvon's? If it is, does anyone know how he obtained it, when, where?


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I'm not receiving these like I did earlier. Found this from the CTH recent thread; ergo, my post.

I just wish less was redacted from those texts. I could see names, addresses, private info, but I bet some of the redacted items weren't.

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I think that gun that you see with Trayvon's hand holding it belongs to a friend. Trayvon was looking to buy his own gun That's all the world needed a young Martian with a handgun
He lived in a violent world with permanently adolescent parents The Fulton family never existed It is an urban legend


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:18 am 
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No decision from 5DCA today.

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chipbennett wrote:


I made a joke that they'll give in on June 7th to piss her off. Maybe there is some truth to it. :78

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Given this case is anything but typical... what is the typical turnaround for the DCA?


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I still wonder if the DCA is going above and beyond the depo ruling. One can hope right?


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canadacan wrote:
Trayvon was looking to buy his own gun. That's all the world needed a young Martian with a handgun


Zimmerman saved his own life and likely several others. Three cheers for Zimmerman!


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I still wonder if the DCA is going above and beyond the depo ruling. One can hope right?


That is such a sweet thought. :64 I wish it could but I seriously doubt it.


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mung wrote:
I still wonder if the DCA is going above and beyond the depo ruling. One can hope right?
DebFrmHell wrote:

That is such a sweet thought. :64 I wish it could but I seriously doubt it.


I actually would prefer just the opposite. Everyone in the entire freaking state of Floriduh is abusing authority and circumventing the rule of law. I would much prefer 5DCA be the adults in the room, and stay within the statutory bounds of their authority. That way, if the defense goes for the Nuclear Writ before trial, or merely files for appeal after a show trial, any decision 5DCA makes to correct the obvious injustices will be fully justified and defensible.

If the defense wants 5DCA to take over the trial (and things are getting awfully close to that point), then they should move for the appropriate Writ.

Three nuclear options:

Quo Warranto: challenge the jurisdiction of the Special Prosecutor, who has exceeded the timeline of her original mandate, without a properly filed extension

Habeas Corpus: challenge the State on the basis of an utterly specious charging document. (I presume this one would get denied on jurisdiction/ripeness grounds.)

All-Writs Jurisdiction: challenge the entire impartiality of the trial court and ability of the tirla court to conduct a fair trial. (I assume it would be rejected, and would be considered a landmark if it were filed, much less granted.)

But unfortunately, it looks like the system is designed such that the trial court has near-infinite authority to do whatever it wants, and the appellate court is designed to reverse on appeal. I'm sure the lawyers in the house could clarify, but I'm not really seeing any immediate relief for a trial court participating in an Orange Blossom Special.

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