He had more than one bathroom. I saw a picture of the outside of his house in Mesa and it was a large house. Three car garage.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Hoards-of- ... 47431.html

True. He had roommates and apparently they never went into his bathroom (or else they didn't shower)?

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Didn't think of that! I wondered how she could manage to shower with Travis there inside the small stall. That could explain it - that she used one of the roommate's bathrooms?

That would be quite risky, though, due to any potential unexpected arrivals......

I'm sure his roommates each had their own bathrooms.....and Jodi did lock Travis's door to his room before she left and no one even noticed. They thought he had gone on his Cancun trip.

LOVED the 1001 places to see before you die for Jodi!

She'd just say Travis was in the shower or make up a lie or try to seduce the roommate.

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So.... is Nurmi in a fog too?

WTF is his theory about the stabs and throat slit?

Even if you accept the lie that Jodi shot first.... she STILL ran after him stabbing and throat slitting.... after the initial shot... THOSE acts are premeditated Murder 1 all by them selves.

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I think I remember reading it was a 5/3.

EVERY time I here Alyce's name mentioned... I think of Snow White and her abusive Dwarves... lol

I have been imprinted.

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What Nurmi is describing is STILL Premeditated murder... Time between shot and stabs is sufficient for "premeditation"

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OMG! I guess this was posted already but I came on late.

I am in SHOCK that Jodi forged letters with Travis's name admitting to being a pedophile and being attracted to little boys! OMG! She is SOOO evil!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly, Rumpole - it matters NOT what Nurmi is trying to sell. EITHER WAY, like you say, it becomes "premeditated" (and that's assuming anyone can discount the entire premeditation from a week prior that Matinez clearly laid out).

Bed time......

Nite nite Jodi....

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5:05 p.m. ET: Nurmi is trying to explain that everything Arias did was to defend herself, and some point she snapped at some point.

5:03 p.m. ET: Nurmi is recanting Arias' story that she dropped his new camera and he became enraged and attacked her in the kind of rage the jury has seen in text messages.

4:59 p.m. ET: Nurmi said the stab wounds on Alexander's back were shallow, and that doesn't make sense.

4:55 p.m. ET:

Nurmi said, “How’s this happen? She’s dragging this body back, that’s pretty obvious. So, in theory then, if she’s dragging this heavy body back, are we to believe that Jodi Arias then stood with Travis down below her and shot him in the head? Risking shooting herself? To what end?”

4:52 p.m. ET: Nurmi said Arias' explination of how and why Alexander died makes more sense then the prosecution's version of events.

“The explanation that Jodi Arias offers makes more sense, because it does involve a moment in time…she’s left-handed, right? She would have had to go down there with her left hand and stab…go down there and stab him, and that’s the moment in time the State things premeditation met reality," said Nurmi.

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They accused Matt MacCartney, Jodi's good friend who claimed he would do anything for her, of writing the forged letters as if it was travis who had written them (that's why he was never called to the stand by either the prosecution or the defense - his lies and forgery presented major credibility problems).

And it was these forged letters that Nurmi tried to use to convince Chris and Skye Hughes that Travis was a pedophile and their son could have been in danger of him. Nurmi KNEW better, the whole thing had been exposed as a forgery before he went to the poor Hughes' about it!

TOO EVIL is RIGHT!!!!!!!

5:10 p.m. ET: Nurmi has finished his closing argument. Judge Stephens has recessed court for 10 minutes.

5:09 p.m. ET:

“One of the things Alyce LaViolette said, was that sometimes when a battered woman is attacked, and they’re defending their life, they don’t know when to stop. Travis Alexander’s body was stabbed 27 times. It may be that Jodi Arias didn’t know when to stop….couldn’t it also be that after everything, everything they went through in that relationship, that she threw him downs again…that after that, she simply snapped," said Nurmi.

5:07 p.m. ET: Nurmi said it was a relationship of chaos that ended in chaos.

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I didn't know this either!

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How long will jury deliberate?

Do you guys want a POLL thread?

What time ranges?

1 day (or less)
2
3
4
5
More than 5 days

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Looks like the jury will start deliberating today.

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OMG Nurmi is done. Now comes Juan!!!