Zimmerman does have some real zealous supporters on some other blogs! Some people say to them, "If Z. didn't get out of the truck this would have never happened. And - how can he claim "Standing Your Ground" and "Self Defense" IF he left his truck?"

They answer "What was he supposed to do, just let him get away?"
Just let this kid get away and go to his Dad's home with his snacks?

I have read "Never argue with an idiot - they will pull you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

Wonder if this will be a compromise verdict? This certainly is a hot one!

I think the witness that saw them wrestling ... obviously came in on the middle of the fight?
Most fights start out with both people - standing. He must have missed that part.

This is so sad. Trayvon turned 17 I think, 3 weeks before his death. No one should have died that night.
No reason for it. I wonder if Zimmerman is really ... ok?

I think this case will be much bigger than the Casey Anthony case. We are in for a long and
very bumpy ride ...

Hello Jaquey!!

I wish Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his truck. This could have NEVER happened then - could it?
His father is a retired Magistrate Judge I read.

That was interesting how the defense table was across from the jury. You make a good point, Joni, although the burden of proof was on the prosecutor.

I think the fact that there was no initial arrest ... set a bad scene. When someone is shot and killed in the streets, maybe we should have a trial to try to get at the truth? Difficult ... when one side is dead. And from what I have been reading, might be very difficult in Florida. What a royal MESS this is. Really!

I read "John" told of what he saw - both men on the ground, wrestling around.
Now, I wonder if "John" saw the whole thing, but decided for some reason, NOT to tell about the beginning, when both men
were standing? I don't feel it matters, since Z. was surely an agressor for whatever personal reason.

Is this the first one Z. ever chased down and confronted? If not, I wonder what happened with all of the others?

Sometimes it's WHO you KNOW - and we know his father was a Magistrate Judge. Has some pull? I do wonder if that is why he wasn't charged in the first place? His last couple encounters with the law too? We will never know ... This is going to be some case.

Packy Hi!
I also read people were wondering if the jury further bonded with Casey - like both kept prisoners? Sequestered jury?
Too, were some felons? Talk about a jury of your peers. God help us all!

I hope the truth will come out in this Florida trial, and whatever it is, that the Jurors "GET IT", and act accordingly.

This could be so horrendous? Riots in the streets of FL? What a huge can of worms Mr. Zimmerman opened when he decided to get out of his truck. Not good ... anyway we look at it.

Hi, Joni

Maybe John didn't see the beginning and maybe the scuffle/noise caught his attention. It doesn't seem likely that Trayvon confronted George at any point, but I can think of one possibility of Trayvon confronting GZ might be that he got really mad that he was followed or checked out or whatever went down and decided to jump GZ.

Trayvon Martin Killing: George Zimmerman's Lawyer Gets Prosecution Evidence
By MATT GUTMAN and SENI TIENBASO
MIAMI, May 14, 2012

George Zimmerman's attorney said today he received a trove of 67 CDs as part of discovery in the neighborhood watchman's second degree murder trial in the killing of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin.
The discovery, reported on a website set up by Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara, is part of the requisite information the state attorney must share with Zimmerman's defense team.
It also includes never before seen witness statements, 911 calls, non-emergency calls, photos, video and medical records.

......more at link
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin ... 7Hla1LjrcA

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New reports that Trayvon had banged up knuckles. Fighting? Defending himself? SO DIFFICULT. Only one alive to tell HIS side of the story.
I wish "John" had seen ALL of the fight, since people are always talking now about who did what to who - FIRST. Is that a subterfuge - taking focus away from the real essence of this case? ** I think the REAL first was Zimmerman.** I do think he should have stayed in his truck. Was he tired of it all, saying to the operator - "Those "A** holes always get away!"? Was he determined - NO MORE - that night? Did he have a fight with his wife? Upset that night? Determined to get this one? And, as it turns out he was wrong! THIS ONE was Not a thief, but a kid without tools, just trying to get back to the place where he was staying/visiting.
I love this place, civilized, decent. Thank you R. Some places I read seem to be SO zealous - almost sides chosen because of color? I am a blonde ... no dog in the fight here. I just want justice - this time in Florida. I have read much about Florida. Hope it can happen.

I wondered about Zimmerman that night too. SOOO laid back, yet so aggressive? Bi-Polar maybe?
I swear I have found his wife on another blog. SOOOO determined... incredible. As determined as he was that night.

And look at the incidents that are happening all over now, gangs jumping a single person. Even a soldier was jumped by a gang and beaten very badly. So badly that he couldn't get up, even after they left. THIS is all coming from G. Zimmerman I think. Horrible!!
Trayvon's body was tested for drugs. None found in him. BUT - - Zimmerman was NOT tested for drugs that night.

His father is a retired Magistrate Judge. I wonder if that had anything to do with Zimmerman's not being charge that night, and getting off from his other charges - before? RIGHT! LOL

I CAN'T imagine having a just turned 17 year old, of mine, laying in a coffin - then buried. I can't.

Hi Y'all & thanks for all the information. I think GZ did not look like he was injured in the LE tape & he should have tested for drugs & alchoal that very night. Why did the LE not treat him as anyother person who just shot someone? I also have a hard time with the witness's statements, I don't think they saw that much & added what they wanted to. This a horrid mess that should have happened if only GZ had done what the LE told him to & stayed in his truck & waited for LE to get there. Reading GZ's record it showes he did not follow the law or respect others either.
I do feel for the tax payers in Florida, this could cost them a bunck. So many lives changed because of one person not doing what they were told to do!

RIP TM

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Hi Lady~E
Hi Packy
and everyone else!!
This case I think will be bigger than O.J. and Casey Anthony.
If Zimmerman had been arrested at the outset, I think it would have been better for everyone.
The fact that he wasn't - set a bad scene down there in Florida. The reason??

We know a little about Florida ... the Casey Anthony case. Oh boy.
TTL

Makes me wonder is there is justice to be found in Florida. I agree with you, bad scene.

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Just saw on Jane VM I think it was, Zimmerman was on prescription meds. Two - mental meds I think. Jane had a Dr. on there who said
"I would never prescribe those two - together. One take you UP, the other brings you DOWN."
The plot sickens - I mean thickens!

Forgot to say the Dr. said these drugs could affect your perception of what IS, like Z. perceived Trayvon to be a thief!
Oh where is this going now? Oh boy. We have to stay tuned.

Hello GOLD STAR!
These two drugs that Zimmerman was taking ... Adderall and Temazepam I think are powerful drugs.
If he has ADHD, is that from birth? Wired differently than the rest of us?
Wonder what this all is going to mean? Trayvon then had to fight off a very determined guy on drugs? They can sometimes be very strong, can't they? Are those pills both uppers? One of each?
Dr. said on the Jane VM show, she would NEVER prescribe both of them to one patient. I guess we can see the defense strategy coming...