Is the streaming starting to crap out for anyone else, or just for me?

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I'm watching clickorlando and it stops and refreshes every now and then.

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Im not having a problem with OS
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... .htmlstory
And Im tethering (?) off my phone.

9:07 p.m. ET: The audio issue has been resolved. Defense attorney Don West is asking the judge to order prosecutors to turn over more evidence from George, Shellie Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin phones.

9:02 p.m. ET: The video feed from the courtroom is having technical issues with the audio. HLN can't broadcast the hearing until the issue is fixed.

9:00 p.m. ET: Judge Debra Nelson is on the stand, and Zimmerman is the courtroom. George Zimmerman's brother is in the gallery.

Nelson begins by saying recent filings show acrimony and she will not stand for it. Judge takes out rules governing conduct. Lights automatically begin to dim. Judge states "I guess we are getting mood lighting. "

9:36 a.m. ET: Judge Nelson has asked the attorneys to approach her bench for a sidebar so she can tell the attorneys what she is going to ask Zimmerman.

Zimmerman may have to tell the court whether he understands his rights under the "Stand Your Ground" law, and if he is waiving them.

9:34 a.m. ET:

“Without objection, I think it’s a good idea if Mr. Zimmerman would stand up and raise his right hand – I have a few questions I’d like to ask him, just regarding that issue,” said the judge.

9:32 a.m. ET: O'Mara is addressing the prosecution's request to have Zimmerman waive his "Stand Your Ground" rights on the record. He says he doesn't feel it's appropriate, because he has already said they would only pursue immunity under that law at the end of the presentation of evidence.

9:29 a.m. ET: Defense attorney Mark O'Mara has asked the judge to add a witness to their list of witnesses they will call at trial. Rionda said he doesn't have a problem with adding them as long as he can depose them and add witness to rebut the new testimony. Nelson will allow the additional witness with Rionda's requests.

9:26 a.m. ET: Nelson ruled that the issue over the 911 is over, because the prosecution hasn't released an cleaned up version to anyone. West tried to argue that the Martin family attorney Ben Crump may have a cleaned up version. Nelson shut West down and said the issue was over.

9:23 a.m. ET: Rionda said the 911 call has been sent to experts, but a cleaned up or enhanced version has not been released to anyone. West had said one of Martin's family members said they heard a cleaned up version of the 911 call.

9:20 a.m. ET: Judge Nelson has asked Rionda whether the 911 call with cries or screams on it has been enhanced or edited.

9:17 a.m. ET: West is discussing a recording of a 911 call made at the time of the shooting, that recorded a gunshot and Martin screaming for help.

“There’s about 40 seconds of recorded phone call before the shot is heard. During that time period, during that 40 seconds, there are a number of what have been characterized as screams or cries for help that are heard clearly in the background,” said West.

9:13 a.m. ET: Defense attorney Bernie de la Rionda said his office has already turned over all the information his investigators have from George and Shellie Zimmerman, and Trayvon Martin's phones.

9:10 a.m. ET: Zimmerman is sitting at the defense table and is staring straight ahead. He doesn't seem to be paying attention.

9:50 a.m. ET: O'Mara is asking whether he can prepare an affidavit instead of Nelson asking Zimmerman question. Nelson denied O'Mara's request.

Zimmerman is taking the oath right now. Nelson is asking Zimmerman if he is aware of the "Stand Your Ground" law. Zimmerman said he knows about the law and how the defense said it did not want a pre-trial immunity hearing.

9:46 a.m. ET: Judge Nelson is back on the bench.

9:43 a.m. ET: George Zimmerman showed no emotion in court today.

11:12 a.m. ET: ABC informed the defense that they only recorded five and half minutes of the interview.

11:10 a.m. ET: Rionda is asking West whether the defense has requested recordings ABC made of an interview between Crump and Witness 8. West said O'Mara has been in contact with ABC, and they said they only recorded part of the interview.

11:06 a.m. ET: West said he could understand more of the content on the better quality recording, but he believes the content was the same on both recordings.

11:05 a.m. ET: West said eventually the defense got another recording that was a better quality, and the content seemed to be same in both recordings.

11:03 a.m. ET: West said one recording of the interview between Crump and Witness was of extremely poor quality.

10:59 a.m. ET: Rionda wants to know what evidence West has that Martin family attorney Crump redacted a recording of an interview with Witness 8. West said he did not say he redacted something on that recording.

10:58 a.m. ET: West said witness 8's name was released to the defense at the beginning of discovery.

10:55 a.m. ET: West agreed with Rionda that there has been an effort in this case to not release witness information to public.

10:54 a.m. ET: Rionda said bloggers misidentified a woman as Witness 8, and Zimmerman's defense website issued a bulletin said people were wrong and they knew the true identity of the woman. West said he remembered the website issuing that statement, and it wasn't that long ago.

10:51 a.m. ET: West is now talking about how the defense learned about the identity of Witness 8.

10:48 a.m. ET: Rionda seems frustrated with West, and has raised his voice several times when questioning him.

10:46 a.m. ET: Rionda is asking West about a letter Witness 8 turned over to both the defense and prosecution at the same time. West said he asked Rionda when he found out about the letter, but he wouldn't answer the question.

10:43 a.m. ET: O'Mara has finished his questioning of his co-counsel West. Rionda is now cross-examining West now.

10:41 a.m. ET: West said Witness 8 told the prosecution she lied about going to hospital during a meeting last August.

10:38 a.m. ET: West is walking through a timeline that documents the defense's issues with receiving evidence from Rionda including Martin's hospital records and photos of Zimmerman's injuries from the night of the shooting.

10:35 a.m. ET: West is accusing Rionda of not responding to the defense's discovery requests. West said the defense has spent 50 to 100 hours dealing with issues related to the prosecution's discovery violations.

10:32 a.m. ET: West said the prosecution did not release the fact that witness 8 lied about going to the hospital until months after they had learned that she had not told the truth. He is now detailing how much the prosecutions discovery violations have cost the defense.

10:28 a.m. ET: O'Mara is asking West when he first thought witness 8 was lying about going to the hospital after Martin was shot. West said he thought very early on he thought it just didn't fit.

10:26 a.m. ET: West said a report from the Federal Department of Law Enforcement or FDLE informed the defense that Rionda had met with witness 8 another time.

10:23 a.m. ET: West said that at some point the defense learned of other interviews Rionda had with witness 8.

10:21 a.m. ET: O'Mara is asking West what information was left out of the Crump interview of witness 8. West said the defense was not told that Crump helped transport the witness to the interview, and some of Martin's family members were present.

10:18 a.m. ET: West said the defense got a recording of an interview of another witness conducted by Rionda that was also redacted or edited. He also said the defense had to request unredacted recordings.

10:16 a.m. ET: West said after filing motions the defense finally got an unredacted recording of the conversation.

10:14 a.m. ET: West said the first recording of Crump's interview the defense received from the prosecution seemed to be edited and redacted of any identifying information for witness 8.

10:11 a.m. ET: O'Mara is asking West about a discovery issue with witness 8. West said there was a recording of Martin family attorney Ben Crump talking with witness 8, and the defense became aware of the recording through different reports. Witness 8 is Martin's ex-girlfriend who was on the phone with him around the time he was shot.

10:10 a.m. ET: West is testifying about his work experience, and his history with Zimmerman's case.

10:08 a.m. ET: Nelson is now trying to determine whether there was a discovery violation. Defense attorney West is taking the witness stand to testify about the prosecution's alleged discovery violation.

10:04 a.m. ET: O'Mara said prosecutors have attacked his reputation, and these proceedings need to be respectful to each other because the world is watching. People could lose respect from the system if they witness the attorneys bicker according to O'Mara.

10:01 a.m. ET: O'Mara is asking Nelson to sanction the prosecution for discovery violations. He said the prosecution's actions were unethical.

9:58 a.m. ET: O'Mara is asking for the settlement documents between the Martin family and the home owner's association for the neighborhood where Martin was shot. Judge Nelson said she would give the defense access to documents under court seal preventing it from being released to the public.

9:54 a.m. ET: Zimmerman is done answering questions from judge Nelson. The attorneys are at a sidebar now.

9:53 a.m. ET: Here is a transcript of Nelson's Q&A with Zimmerman:

udge: “The state of Florida provides a procedure where by you may file a pretrial motion for immunity and at that motion hearing, the defense bears the burden of proof. Do you understand that?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And are you familiar with chapter 776.032 and that’s known as the Stand Your Ground statute of immunity. Are you familiar with that statute?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And without telling me any substance of any conversations that you’ve had with any of your lawyers, but have you had conversations with them about filing an immunity motion and having a pretrial hearing?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And are you aware that council previously stated that they were going to file a pretrial motion and request a separate immunity hearing?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And that the court had set the deadline for filing any of those motions in a previous court order and that was April 26, 2013. Are you aware of that?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And in addition to that the court, in anticipation, had set aside two weeks in April for an immunity hearing. Are you aware of that?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And then prior to that date, council announced to the court that he will not be filing a pretrial immunity motion. Are you aware of that?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And that was discussed with you?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And you’re also aware that no such motion has been filed, is that correct?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And that matter was discussed with you also?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “Do you consent with council’s decision to not file a pretrial immunity motion?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “And do you consent to council’s not requesting a pretrial immunity hearing?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “Is it your decision to not file the pretrial immunity motion?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

Judge: “Is it your decision to not have a pretrial immunity hearing?”

Zimmerman: “After consultation with my council, yes your honor.”

Judge: “Has anyone promised you anything to get you to make this decision?”

Zimmerman: “No, your honor.”

Judge: “Has anybody threatened you?”

Zimmerman: “No, your honor.”

Judge: “Is your decision freely and voluntarily and knowingly made?”

Zimmerman: “Yes, your honor.”

9:52 a.m. ET: Zimmerman said the defense will not file a request for a pre-trial immunity hearing, and it is his decision to not to pursue a pre-trial hearing.

Morning, All!

Rumpole, please let me know if it's ok to copy the live blog - I figured it's a good way to have a more complete record for discussion later.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/04/29 ... al-hearing

Hi Remote

Nice to have you aboard

Live blog is good.... thanks

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BDLR is not only a master of compound questions; he is clearly a master of non-sequitur.

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"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook." - 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)

11:20 a.m. ET: Rionda is asking West what case law or law requires the prosecution to disclose to the defense who is present at depositions and interviews. West said he believes both the prosecution and defense is required to disclose that information.

11:14 a.m. ET: West said the defense has the ABC recording. Rionda said the prosecution does not have it, and he asked West if he should file motions requested sanctions on the defense for not disclosing the ABC recording. West said he believes the ABC recording is available online for everyone.

Master Arm-flapping Buffoon!

West is wiping the floor with BDLR on the question of whether the information that Witness 8 lied is or is not Brady material as exculpatory.

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"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook." - 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)

BDLR claims the defence are effected by CTH...


It seems clear to me that BDLR is parroting (cockatooing) the sort of spurious arguments posted by cretins at places like JQ

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Do not go gentle into that good night.
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11:26 a.m. ET: West agreed with Rionda that the witness 8 said she lied about the hospital, because she couldn't tell Martin's mother that she was unable to go to the hospital, because she didn't want to see Martin's body. Rionda asked West why he thinks the fact witness 8 lied about going to the hospital will help ZImmerman's case. West said he believes it goes to witness 8's crediblity.

11:23 a.m. ET: Rionda is asking West if the court ever told the defense to go to the FDLE to get whatever records they need. West said yes and they went to FDLE and got the records the defense needed.

Not only does witness 8's lies go to credibility (the most important reason) but witness 8's lies were used as a foundation for the building of the case against GZ and used as the narrative for this case. Repeated ad nauseam, influencing potential jurors and inflaming the public.

11:32 a.m. ET: Rionda is asking West what he knows about reciprocal discovery required of the defense. He is asking West why it took the defense a year to file supplemental discovery if they required to file reciprocal discovery. West said it is a ongoing investigation, and they have filed discovery as they learned of evidence.

West is giving it back to BDLR.

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West just sucker-punched BDLR regarding timely disclosure of discovery, and BDLR responds: "I'm not going to argue with you, sir."

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"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook." - 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)

HLN is not playing any of the court audio only quick sections of it and then BSing about things then another commercial. I think I will go with CourtTV next time.