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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:39 pm 
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We are not talking about an old fashioned roll of film or something.

We are talking about a digital (computer) file in some format....and a guy who's profession requires he stores many such files.... no doubt with his own back up system, and most likely an off site back up of some sort as well?

You do NOT loose such a file unless you go to a lot of trouble to do so... on purpose.

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Lost in the sinkhole or night club fire in Brazil?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:10 pm 
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What bad luck though.

He probably has untold files (10's of 1000's) of interviews with beauty pageant winners etc.. but THE one file relating to the biggest story has ever covered... a story he is clearly extra involved with over other stories throughout his career.. an interview that he had special EXCLUSIVE access to, and a recording of......that is the ONE file that goes missing... talk about bad luck!!!

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Zimmerman attorneys to appeals court: Overrule Sanford judge; make Crump answer our questions
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
6:21 p.m. EDT, April 4, 2013

Attorneys for George Zimmerman Thursday asked an appeals court to reverse the decision of a Sanford judge and allow them to make Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Trayvon Martin's family, answer their questions under oath.

It is a battle defense attorneys have been fighting – and losing - for months.

They twice asked Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson to allow them to depose Crump, and she twice said no, most recently one week ago.

Now, they've asked the Fifth District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach to overturn her decision.

"A civil lawyer with a vested interest in the outcome of the case should not be allowed to keep evidence from law enforcement; potentially influence significant witnesses; speak on national television about evidence he claims to exist and witnesses he has spoken with; accuse several law enforcement agencies of dishonesty; otherwise play a central role in the media persecution … yet claim he is not subject to a deposition regarding non-privileged matters," wrote defense attorneys Mark O'Mara and Don West.

Crump said he could not comment on the appeal.

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Isn't interesting when bad luck, is actually a stroke of fortune.


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I said this once before, but I'll repeat it with a little more detail. I'm convinced I'm correct, but I'm willing to listen to contrary opinions.

The work-product privilege in Hickman is a common-law privilege under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. There are no common-law privileges not to testify under Florida law. In Florida, privileges are limited by 90.501 to those provided by statute, the constitutions of the U.S. and Florida, and the rules of procedure approved by the Florida supreme court. Florida provides work-product privileges under the civil and criminal rules of procedure. Civil rule 1.280(b)(4) is essentially the Hickman rule. It applies only to civil proceedings. Criminal rule 3.220(g)(1) is the work-product privilege in criminal cases. It provides: "Disclosure shall not be required of legal research or of records, correspondence, reports, or memoranda to the extent that they contain the opinions, theories, or conclusions of the prosecuting or defense attorney or members of their legal staffs." It does not provide any privilege to anyone other than prosecution and defense. There is no other Florida work-product privilege that limits discovery or testimony in criminal cases.


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Sounds reasonable. Explains why Blackwell was trying to posture Crump as a private attorney general and citing cases which hold that you can't depose the prosecutor.


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I actually don't believe that anyone involved, including the courts, have stopped to consider that any work-product privilege must, under 90.501, be found in written law. They're thinking like lawyers usually do: The Florida rules of evidence are based on the federal rules, so they look to federal case law as persuasive authority. They fail to take into account that the federal rules of evidence specifically allow common law privileges as determined by the federal courts, while Florida law rejects such court-originated privileges.


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WrongonRed wrote:
Not quite sure how you "hack" the dates on Facebooks posts to make them look as if they occurred in the past. I think that is just the cover story. Facebook could even tell you the IP address of each of the posts and the IP address of the user logged in. Anyone ever heard of someone being able to, even with someone else's login to make a post appear as if it was from an earlier date? I think that whole story was covered to explain away the obvious. I mean, how many pictures do you have on your Facebook account holding wads of cash? All of that is easily verifiable with the Facebook subpoena. Plus there are also the "comments" from his "friends" which are also verifiable. It would have to be a pretty large and extensive hack, the likes of which I am pretty sure Facebook would be taken to task for.


This is strange that I just did this and then read your comment. I posted a pix of my 7 yr old grandson as an infant and put the date taken as in 2005. It shows up as the date on the photo. But I dont think someone could post a comment like that. Then again I an not big on how to do computer stuff lol. Having prob for first time, trying to open the appeal filing. :59


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:20 am 
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Pictures on your timeline are different than status updates. The Clock next to the date will always have the date the pic was posted, while the date to the left of the clock you can amend, and will show where it appears on your timeline. However, none of this was available within Facebook a year ago. These are recent changes to the Photo Settings since the introduction of timeline.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:21 am 
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As well as this DAILY discussion thread about the GZ case... there is also

DAILY DAFT POSTS FROM JUSTARSE QUEST
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If only Trayvon had kept his hands in his pockets, none of this would have happened.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:34 am 
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Just finished reading MOM/West's filing with the 5th Circuit Court of Appeal - it's great! So glad to see it!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:00 am 
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Yes. I enjoyed it :)

IANAL... so I read these things and try to apply common sense. This case continues to frustrate me when common sense seems to be "denied" by Judges rulings. Once I gave up my last thread of optimism that Neslon would surely start to act as if she got what was going on... I did assume that there would be nothing positive this side of the trial unless it was a ruling by DCA.. who so far still offer some hope and reason to be optimistic.

I am very pleased that something is before them. I looks good to me too, but as I say IANAL.

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My Dee Dee, she wrote me a letter . . .

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Surprise surprise! http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 3976.story


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Good grief!

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The Traybots are dancing in the streets about the estimated $1 Million Insurance settlement from the HOA. I am sure Crump is dancing, too. Crump gets paid some percentage of $1 million. I think in the end, no matter the verdict, Tray's will say "Well, at least the Martin/Fultons got paid".


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Yeah, his parents certainly were prescient when they chose the words for his headstone, weren't they? "Sleep, my son - job well done." Yep, well done indeed. By beating up GZ, he handed his parents more money than he'd have earned in his lifetime. I guess their faith in the just-us system has been borne out.

And all the homeowners at RATL will presumably be paying higher insurance rates now. If I lived there, I would be SO angry! :WW :WW :WW According to the OS, "the monies being paid hereunder is consideration for avoiding litigation". How disgusting! I really thought the insurers would have more backbone. Well, Crump got his clients in just under the wire, so they'd better take the money and run.

Hey, if this news gives me a heart attack, can I sue the HOA and expect a big payout just to drop the case?


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