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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:44 pm 
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Do I have this right...the defense isn't allowed to have the address of DD (not sure about SF/TM and other Miami witnesses). The state is saying they provided the transportation, like the reason was out of the kindness of their hearts, when it was more likely to conceal the addresses of the witnesses.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:46 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/st ... ctions.pdf

What I noticed after a quick read:

Defense didn't verbally tell state about videotaping and state failed to observe it in written notices to state.

State arrange transport of some witnesses at no expense to defense...so big of them

Defense cancelled some depos, two as late as the afternoon before depo...boo hoo

Defense didn't video tape other witnesses, so state felt this was done to intimidate witnesses...unlike SF sitting in on DD's depo intimated DD.

One for the defense...Nelson denied state's objection to videotaping, but they must remain under seal.

Two other things...DD was scared...MOM ate a meal while waiting for the court's decision.


- State can't read.

- DD is a "fragile witness" because she certainly ain't "under 16 years of age" for not allowing to be videotaped

- DD too scared and didn't want to be videotaped :roll


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Rumpole wrote:
It's clear to me that the "Speakin'" Dee Dee showed up.

If Bernie had remembered it was a Video thing... he would have brought the "Video" Dee Dee along.

When you are running a whole stable of Dee Dee's it's important to use the right one!!

Proper casting is vital for the success of any film.


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Apparently this is TMs best friend. Anyone ever see this pic or his school ID?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Ps is it ok to post stuff like this here? :34



Edit Rumpole
So far I see no problems with links to places.


I see comment posted by Stephen Martin says he needs that ID, wonder why?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:51 pm 
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BDLR: I didn't read the deposition notices.

Powerful stuff, Bernie. No Shakespeare for the occasion?


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This whole discussion has been interesting today. As usual,though, the more information we get, the more questions we have. :83


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:54 pm 
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A GENERAL NOTE

IF you muck up quote boxes etc in your post... no big deal.... you have AN HOUR to edit any post... so you can fix it.

I have to waste a lot of time figuring out what it is you wanted to quote.. and then fix the post.

Much easier for me to just hit the delete button :cool

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When a url address is the very first thing in a post.. it comes up against edge of quote box when that post is quoted.... it does not work as a link. You need to add a space between [quote] and the url address.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:56 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Do I have this right...the defense isn't allowed to have the address of DD (not sure about SF/TM and other Miami witnesses). The state is saying they provided the transportation, like the reason was out of the kindness of their hearts, when it was more likely to conceal the addresses of the witnesses.


Is it very cynical of me to wonder what the topics of conversation were whilst en route to the depositions?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:00 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Do I have this right...the defense isn't allowed to have the address of DD (not sure about SF/TM and other Miami witnesses). The state is saying they provided the transportation, like the reason was out of the kindness of their hearts, when it was more likely to conceal the addresses of the witnesses.


Stop reading my mind ! :69


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:01 pm 
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Up to the DCA - we wanna rap wit da Crumpster

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/petition.pdf


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:04 pm 
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Is fragile witness the same as sensitive witness because if it is then it says it should be video taped unless otherwise ordered by the court. She would also be considered a category A witness.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:05 pm 
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John_Galt wrote:
Up to the DCA - we wanna rap wit da Crumpster

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/petition.pdf


:98 :98 :98

43 pages...lots of reading to do...


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:06 pm 
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It is nice to include link to GZLegal so we can see documents in context.. and see as more added....

From GZ Legal Site

http://www.gzlegalcase.com/

http://www.gzlegalcase.com/index.php/di ... -discovery



State's Response to Motion for Sanctions (RE: Miami Video Depositions)

on 04 April 2013.
The following STATE'S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR PAYMENT OF ATTORNEY FEES & COSTS (RE: MIAMI VIDEO DEPOSITIONS) was filed with the Court:

STATE'S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR PAYMENT OF ATTORNEY FEES & COSTS (RE: MIAMI VIDEO DEPOSITIONS)
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/st ... ctions.pdf


Petition for Writ of Certiorari

on 04 April 2013.
The following PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI has been filed with the Fifth District Court of Appeal:

PETITION FOR WRIT OF CERTIORARI
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/petition.pdf

Appendix
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/appendix.pdf

A link to the multi-media files referenced in Exhibit H files will be provided to individuals who make a Media Request.

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menostupid wrote:
Apparently this is TMs best friend. Anyone ever see this pic or his school ID?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Ps is it ok to post stuff like this here? :34



Edit Rumpole
So far I see no problems with links to places.


No.... I've never seen it before. There seems to be alot of new stuff on him lately.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:12 pm 
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John_Galt wrote:
Up to the DCA - we wanna rap wit da Crumpster

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0413/petition.pdf



Thanks for da link!!

About time the DCA was brought in.... this sketch is getting silly!!!!


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Love it ! Love it! Love it ! :87 Thats the kind of work I knew the defense could do. :17




Edit Rumpole
Please edit to fix or delete quotes in posts if you see you have stuffed up
I am having to fix nearly every post?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:18 pm 
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So is my understanding that he is arguing that while videography was sufficiently noticed on both the draft and final depo notices, that because they (the State) failed to read them (because they assumed there would not be, because of the other depos not being taped) that therefore, they are not responsible for their own error, whose costs could have been prevented had they filed a timely objection based on the notice (and the entire reason why a notice is required to give the other party the "heads up"?)

Plus, wouldn't this be an objection that typically the Witnesses Attorney, assuming they had one, would file? You would think that they would want the state's bombshell witness on tape to show how rock solid their case is. It is almost like BDLR is her personal attorney as well.


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Bombshell @ page 21 of the DCA petition to depose Crump:

"Out of the 25-minute clear recording ABC News took of the interview, ABC has
only preserved the 5-minute clip referenced supra."

Evidence destruction, much?


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I love it too. You said Rumpole that the 5th Appeal Court Judges had more hot potatos coming their way. The Traybot's heads are exploding. The last time O'Mara and West went there, Lester got kicked to the curb. Bernie has been awful as his 2AM drunk rant showed.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:42 pm 
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John_Galt wrote:
Bombshell @ page 21 of the DCA petition to depose Crump:

"Out of the 25-minute clear recording ABC News took of the interview, ABC has
only preserved the 5-minute clip referenced supra."

Evidence destruction, much?



BOMBSHELL indeed

I am going to have to take on extra staff to gather all the DAFT posts elsewhere as Traybots go postal!!! :slap

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