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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:56 am 
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A second part to the tape above:

Finding Premeditation Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CskWKO3gW2E

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:06 pm 
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Puzzler - thanks for the links. Will look at them.

Does anybody know if the book Dr. Samuals gave Jodi helped her formulate her case/testimony in any way?
Anyone know anything about that book?

Jodi is losing weight. Casey lost weight. Deliberate?

How come Zimmerman is GAINING weight when most others seem to lose? Has an "in" because of his father's former position - Judge? Strange isn't it? :Q6


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:18 pm 
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The book:

"Your Erroneous Zones" by Wayne Dyer.

Popular pocket self-help psychology book from 70's I read it back then.... I can not remember the detail.

I am sure it had some helpful thoughts. Reading books like that does mean you are thinking about things psychological. There was no specific instructions about tests, but it would not have hurt to be alert to psychological motives etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:22 pm 
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Afternoon, everyone!

Puzzler - thanks for posting those videos! It has some excellent map work (loving the highlighted lights for the cities and stops) and it clearly explains Juan Martinez' emphasizing the need for that 3rd gas can. This is what I expected for the prosecution to show the jury. It really demonstrates how absurd Jodi's story to Det. Flores was - I can still see her and Det. Flores going over the map and why Det. Flores was telling her how her story didn't add up.

That was a HUGE distance that Jodi drove (2,800 miles :eek ).


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:25 pm 
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Joni - remember that both Jodi and Casey were incarcerated for a while before and during trial. Jail food is not appetizing (even though Xasey did gain a lot of weight at one point due to her fattening, high sodium commissary purchases). Zimmerman is home and eating to his heart's content.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:29 pm 
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Puzzler wrote:
If you haven't already seen this video - it's interesting:

Finding Premeditation Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQoF-UE ... e=youtu.be



Thanks....Great video.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:40 pm 
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Remote -- ooops I forgot. Z is home. Thanks.

Puzzler GREAT VIDEOS! I am going back to see #2. Thanks.
So glad you are here!! :86


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PUZZLER -

I forgot to thank you for that good research you did regarding Gus Searcy!! I had no idea, so thanks! :)


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Damn!!


Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
3/31/2013 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 4/1/2013
NOTE: MOTION FOR MISTRIAL: JUROR MISCONDUCT 3/31/2013 OBJ - Objection/Opposition. - Party (001) 4/1/2013


http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.go...=CR2008-031021


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:05 pm 
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Link doesn't work

If you copy from a post the link is often abbreviated.. you need to open link to get full url

But... anyway... so juror misconduct?

I assume they have alternates... if worse come to worse they wheel in a spare?

Working link to Arias case docket:
(It reverts to Criminal cases home.. search Jodi Arias by name)
http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/d ... /index.asp

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:38 pm 
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GADS all this - and all Jodi had to do was write! She could probably have made good living writing books, scripts, screen plays, etc. Creative and WAAAAAAAY out there!
She wouldn't be where she is now. She might have her choice of other men if young and successful.

She missed her calling. Maybe a Call Girl, Stripper, Hooker? But poor whacko Jodi thinks she can beat the system. Outsmart everyone, like she did always did her "stall" of males, and Mommy and Daddy. Sounds Just like Casey.

"Gosh Jodi" ... most of us have the same equipment you have, and it's REAL!!! Delusional females seem to think they are SOOOOOOOOOO special - and unique. I guess they *believe* the pillow talk their males all say to them... :WW


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Info re the latest defense motion from an Arizona lawyer, FWIW

Without seeing the document, all I can tell is:

1) The defense team is complaining that JM is trying to get in evidence/argument of some aggravating circumstance that isn't "on the table." The only one "on the table" is cruelty. (The factor is actually "heinous, cruel or depraved," but a prior judge already ruled there was no probable cause for heinousness or depravity.) I have no idea which one the defense thinks JM is trying to bring in.

2) Apparently the defense team thinks that a juror has committed misconduct. Who knows why. Perhaps they have some evidence that the jury has been deliberating early, or that they are watching media reports, or that they are commenting on the case on Facebook...there are lots of possibilities.
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Rumpole wrote:
Link doesn't work

If you copy from a post the link is often abbreviated.. you need to open link to get full url

But... anyway... so juror misconduct?

I assume they have alternates... if worse come to worse they wheel in a spare?

Working link to Arias case docket:
(It reverts to Criminal cases home.. search Jodi Arias by name)
http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/d ... /index.asp


Sorry Rumpole, I thought I did, I'll be careful with that next time.


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According to a tweet I just read, they want Grace Wong a senior producer for In Sessions to appear tomorrow re the juror misconduct.


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I did a little searching. IS this STILL about Juan M. and his popularity? Some jurors "possibly" seeing it?
Same old same old. U. thinks some jurors "MIGHT" have seen it?
Desperate crew!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:11 pm 
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Joni wrote:
I did a little searching. IS this STILL about Juan M. and his popularity? Some jurors "possibly" seeing it?
Same old same old. U. thinks some jurors "MIGHT" have seen it?
Desperate crew!


I agree Joni, I suppose the more motions they file, the less there will be appeal issues.


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Juror #5, with the colored hair supposedly said something to the other jurors ... biased? THIS is the
grounds for a mistrial ...
Someone ratted her out. She asked many questions - took many notes.
Beth doesn't think a new trial.


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HLN After Dark tonight, "Did Jodi stab first?" That is their question.


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http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/ ... arias.html

Statement Analysis - Peter Hyatt. He trains F.B.I. men plus lectures, etc. etc. etc.


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I knew on Thursday when they were interviewing the jurors that they were trying to get a mistrial! :TF

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