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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:27 pm 
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So, Aurora shooter James Holmes, in an open-and-shut case that needs only determine if he was mentally competent or insane at the time of the shooting, just had his trial date moved back from August 2013 to February 2014, with the judge indicating that even more time may be necessary.

The Aurora shooting was in July 2012, with the arrest taking place at the crime scene, and the original trial date set for August 2013 (13 months from arrest to trial).

The Martin shooting was in February 2012, with the arrest taking place in April 2012, and the original trial date set for June 2013 (14 months from arrest to trial).

In the Aurora shooting, all the evidence was, for all intents and purposes, immediately available. One would imagine that the only point left to contend is the mental state of the accused. And yet, that trial was just continued another six months (and counting).

In the Martin shooting, the prosecution is still supplementing the release of discovery evidence, some three months before the trial - and yet the defense motion to continue for six months was denied. (The judge found nothing "insurmountable", of course.)

Anecdotally, from what I have been able to gather, a murder trial generally takes anywhere from 1 to 3 years from arrest to trial, with more than 90% of those resulting in a plea deal. If true, it becomes obvious that Zimmerman's trial has been fast-tracked.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:36 pm 
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I have lurked for a while, but wanted to finally join in the discussion. I just ran across something I find very interesting when watching this LLMPapa video on a whim just to see that those guys were saying.....see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U6HVOvtLNk

Notice how BDLR pronounces Trayvon's name at about 0:55 mark. Perhaps, it may just be me, but he pronounces the name like it is mis-spelled in the "Witness 8" Letter. (Trevon instead of Trayvon). Not sure what, if anything, it means, but find that rather odd and coincidental. Has anyone heard a clear enough copy of any of the Wit #8 interview to hear if she also pronounces it the same way (the same way she supposedly spells it)?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:50 pm 
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Welcome to RT WrongonRed :51

Thanks for the link.
It's not needed with a LIMPapa vid... but there is help on how to post YT vids for future reference
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=36#p73

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:51 pm 
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chipbennett wrote:
Random thought:

If Nelson fails to censure BDLR for the egregious, prima facie rules and ethics violations in his drunken screed, would that then be grounds for a writ to the DCA, on the basis that Nelson is clearly biased against the defendant, due to her inappropriate deference to the prosecution?


Can't the defense file an appeal? What does a writ to the DCA mean?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:02 pm 
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WrongonRed wrote:
I ran across something I find very interesting when watching this LLMPapa video on a whim


Pointing out that W8's testimoney is radically inconsistent from the route taken by Trayvon according to GZ. These people are finally catching a clue. Next step: acceptance that admitted liar under oath W8 is lying yet again. I suspect that cell phone records will eventually motivate that acceptance.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:40 pm 
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http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/new ... orn/nW8PC/

Sanford new police chief sworn in today. As a welcoming gift, he received a copy of the playbook, provided by the scheme team.


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Pointing out that W8's testimoney is radically inconsistent from the route taken by Trayvon according to GZ. These people are finally catching a clue. Next step: acceptance that admitted liar under oath W8 is lying yet again. I suspect that cell phone records will eventually motivate that acceptance.

It won't matter to most of the Trayvon cultists. They will still believe that George racially profiled Trayvon, stalked him and hunted him down like a rabid dog. Many will consider any evidence that conflicts with that to be further evidence of a racist conspiracy to cover it up and just add some more people to the conspiracy to explain it. i.e. Someone intimidated DD and someone faked phone records and cell phone ping/GPS logs. Even those that might accept that Trayvon assaulted George will still believe he deserved it or that George should have fought back "like a man".

You can't fix insane with facts, logic or reason.

http://dothprotesttoomuch.com/2013/03/3 ... ing-to-do/


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It won't matter to most of the Trayvon cultists. They will still believe that George racially profiled Trayvon, stalked him and hunted him down like a rabid dog. Many will consider any evidence that conflicts with that to be further evidence of a racist conspiracy to cover it up and just add some more people to the conspiracy to explain it. i.e. Someone intimidated DD and someone faked phone records and cell phone ping/GPS logs. Even those that might accept that Trayvon assaulted George will still believe he deserved it or that George should have fought back "like a man".

You can't fix insane with facts, logic or reason.

http://dothprotesttoomuch.com/2013/03/3 ... ing-to-do/


It is worse than that. They are using the love note from DeeDee to Sabrina/Crump to say that George was "stalking" Treyvon(or is it Trayvon) from the time he left Brandy's house all of the way to the 7-11 and back again. Because surely it is easier to believe that he was out hunting for black babies than it is to believe that DeeDee may have lied a little.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:13 pm 
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It is worse than that. They are using the love note from DeeDee to Sabrina/Crump to say that George was "stalking" Treyvon(or is it Trayvon) from the time he left Brandy's house all of the way to the 7-11 and back again. Because surely it is easier to believe that he was out hunting for black babies than it is to believe that DeeDee may have lied a little.


W8 has told too many inconsistent stories. March 19 letter, GZ is stalking Trevon through a different complex. By April 2, Trayvon runs directly to the gated place and shelters under the mail thing for 18 minutes. Meanwhile, Jeff Weiner reports that she corroborates herself. LMAO, the incredible self-corroborating witness.


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John_Galt wrote:
W8 has told too many inconsistent stories. March 19 letter, GZ is stalking Trevon through a different complex. By April 2, Trayvon runs directly to the gated place and shelters under the mail thing for 18 minutes. Meanwhile, Jeff Weiner reports that she corroborates herself. LMAO, the incredible self-corroborating witness.


Not to mention, it defies logic to believe that someone on the phone would relay such details to the other person....."I am now putting my hood up", "I am stopping under this "mail thing"", "I am coming through this "different" apartment complex, now I am going to Retreat at Twin Lakes".... etc. DeeDee has supposedly never been to Sanford before, and would only reasonably know those things even exist if someone had told her, especially if someone where "scared" like she asserts in one of the stories that Trevon was. When someone is scared, the natural instinct is to worry about ones immediate safety, not relay a play by play over the phone. Take any 911 call you hear as an example........ When I was a firefighter, we used to relay such detailed things over the radio when in a structure in the event things went south so the SAR Teams knew whereabout we last were, but in a casual "phone conversation," that alone does not pass the smell test. You can literally see her story evolve as more information is leaked....I mean released. It is like they forget that she is merely an "ear witness" and not an eye witness as they feed her the narrative.


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Actually they are claiming that TM went into a the Mail shed at Colonial village apts. where someone named Grace Zimmerman(?) lives, and that she somehow communicated to GZ who was waiting for TM to come through the short-cut into RTL and followed him from there.


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Actually they are claiming that TM went into a the Mail shed at Colonial village apts. where someone named Grace Zimmerman(?) lives, and that she somehow communicated to GZ who was waiting for TM to come through the short-cut into RTL and followed him from there.


Doesn't fit W8's April 2 testimoney.

Trayvon runs inside the gated place to the mail thing. A couple of minutes later the white man, on the phone, in a car, is watching him. Trayvon starts walking, puts his hoodie on.

Everybody is starting to realize that W8 is FOS.


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FYI There's a new thread going at Mike McDaniel's blog about the BDLR meltdown memo, er State's answer to motion for sanctions
http://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.c ... cowardice/


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Thanks for the link Walther.....

The Trayvon Martin Case, Update 25: Calumny and Cowardice
31 Sunday Mar 2013
Posted by Mike McDaniel

“Oh yeah? Well, O’Mara is a poopy-face and he’s done wrong stuff too! Look! Squirrels! And lookit this: I’m so smart I can quote Shakespeare, and he can’t! Nyaaah, nyaaah!”

Thus is the substance of Special Prosecutor Bernard de la Rionda’s reply to Mark O’Mara’s motion for sanctions against de la Rionda for violation of his legal obligations.

In this series of articles I have often commented on the upside down nature of virtually everything about this case. It began before George’s Zimmerman’s arrest, when, bowing to the racial grievance industry and political pressure, Florida’s Governor and Attorney General appointed a special prosecutor. At that point, there was only one reason for that appointment: to arrest and prosecute Zimmerman regardless of the evidence. The Sanford Police Department had already conducted a competent investigation and had presented the facts to the local prosecutor who made an entirely reasonable and professional decision based on the evidence: there were no grounds to prosecute Zimmerman; he acted in self-defense under Florida law.


...more plus comments at link
http://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.c ... cowardice/

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This letter only raises more questions...I hope MOM got some answers.

That is exactly what I have been thinking. Every bit of new information that comes out raises more questions. :78


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Bernie seems to claim [insert fervent arm flapping here] that Simple Mobile phone records from an anonymous prepaid cell phone prove the claims of a known age-shifting liar who can't identify her own cell phone carrier. Said known liar herself being anonymous and known only by her nickname, of unknown address and perhaps unseen by all except Sybrina Fulton as of the 3/19 interview. You don't believe that? You must be raaaaycisssssssssssst.

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drunken screed

Like that. Ha, ha. :Gslap


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boricuafudd wrote:
Actually they are claiming that TM went into a the Mail shed at Colonial village apts.


More trespassing?


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Reminder


As well as this DAILY discussion thread about the GZ case... there is also

DAILY DAFT POSTS FROM JUSTARSE QUEST
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=822&p=29418#p29418


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http://diwataman.wordpress.com/2013/01/23/like-a-shed/ In light of the letter... 8-)


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