So DeeDee has a terrible command of spoken English, and her letter shows she doesn't know the difference betweeen "to" and "too". I can't say I'm surprised. But she has supposedly known TM since kindergarten (hers or his, we don't know), was "getting there" to a romantic relationship, spent 500 minutes on the phone with him that day, but doesn't know how to spell his name? I would think this unfamiliarity with the spelling of his name would even show the uninterested observer that something isn't right with this witness. And how could BDLR or Crump not realize the problem this causes, to offer the letter with no acknowledgement of this glaring problem? It's not like TM's name is some complicated slavic name with lots of consonants. All the texting these kids do, we're supposed to believe she never used his name in a text or he never corrected her....?

I've not taken sides on the 2 DeeDee issue, but with DeeDee signing this letter "with a nickname" that wouldn't match her real name, and this letter having a better command of the past tense than the spoken DeeDee did, it lends credence to the theory that someone told her/someone what to write.

The common thought seems to be that DeeDee was allegedly so broken-hearted that she was not able to go to the wake/funeral, because the presumably heretofore healthy 18 y/o young woman either had high blood pressure or couldn't void her colon, depending on the story. This grief-stricken young waif couldn't even let her friends, family, or even make an anonymous police call, to
alert anyone to the fact that the love of her life was being pummelled.

To me, a lot of her story is way more complicated than it has to be. Most 18 y/os have not yet dealt with death, and funerals are largely "grown up" events. I can see her not wanting to go to the wake or funeral, simply because it would be an unhappy, unfamiliar, adult situation where proper etiquette would be expected. Regardless of how long this or that DeeDee had known him or how close she may/may not have felt about TM, a funeral wouldn't be something an 18 would jump at. So I just don't think that elaborate reasons are needed for why she didn't go - except as it furthered Crump's narrative.

(Yes, some kids have much older relatives who pass away, but often don't go to the services, and some kids in tough neighborhoods have friends who live/die by the gun - but I just don't think this is the experience of most kids)

Reminder


As well as this DAILY discussion thread about the GZ case... there is also

DAILY DAFT POSTS FROM JUSTARSE QUEST
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=822&p=29149#p29149



If only Trayvon had kept his hands in his pockets, none of this would have happened.

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I had not read this before, so if it has already been posted, I am sorry. I just found all of the contradictions interesting.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/3/29/74056/4011

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Are you seriously telling me she said she couldn't go due to constipation????????

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A friend recommended reading The Innocent Man and I read The Trial by Kafka (thanks FF3) out of curiosity. Those drove my interest in this case.

To the point, the innocence project deals with prosecutor/police malpractice, phony/hidden/manipulated forensic evidence. The GZ case has all this and more, bogus gunshot forensics, ME manipulation, and the phone forensics specifically.

This is on their website: "Every state receives federal grant money under the Paul Coverdell Forensic Science Improvement Grant program. The 2004 Justice for All Act, which was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bush, says states must have oversight mechanisms in place if they receive federal money for their crime labs. Specifically, the law requires jurisdictions seeking federal funding for their forensic facilities to identify an independent, external government entity with an appropriate process to conduct investigations into allegations of negligence or misconduct affecting forensic results."

Is there a oversight mechanism in Florida or California where the phones were analyzed to force the labs to account directly to GZ defense?

Welcome to RT, MagnusBravo

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I don't know if anyone has brought this up or not, but what if someone else wrote the letter and DeeDee was just dictating it? She then would have signed her name to the end of the aforementioned letter?

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Actually, I misspoke - one of the stories was that she couldn't urinate. I guess we should have her describe the experience of getting a catheter to disprove THAT story lol

The quote I saw from DeeDee was "I couldn't pee".
And endless posting speculating where DeeDee found and used a BP cuff when it was a BP problem.

Everyone that knew him called him Tray so the misspelling of his name is a very big deal to me.

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"If a man talks in a forest, and there is no woman there to hear him.

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Normally I would agree but these kids are used to funerals seemed like every other day someone they knew died.

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"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers."

"If a man talks in a forest, and there is no woman there to hear him.

Is he still wrong?"

Random thought:

If Nelson fails to censure BDLR for the egregious, prima facie rules and ethics violations in his drunken screed, would that then be grounds for a writ to the DCA, on the basis that Nelson is clearly biased against the defendant, due to her inappropriate deference to the prosecution?

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Chip... your guess (random thought) is as good as mine. You would think so, but nothing seems to proceed in this case as common sense (and quoted law) suggests.

I am still struggling with the cancellation of this week's hearing. Probably no great loss since Nelson is stuck on "Denied", but it is a step further to be so blatant as to not even bother pretending to listen to defence submissions?

I can only assume that "something is afoot".... lets hope it is some sort of aquittal/dismissing of charges.

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I would seriously be surprised if there was an acquittal or something. I think Nelson is gonna let this run it's course no way she is gonna be called a racist or corrupt judge.

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"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers."

"If a man talks in a forest, and there is no woman there to hear him.

Is he still wrong?"

Maybe Bernie has done a draft of his Opening Statement laying out the case against GZ... and it only runs 3 mins so he will throw in the towel?

Not likely I know.. he can always pad it out to an hour with arm-flapping performance from Shakespeare's "Much Ado About Nothing"

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I think the Defense had only one shot at the "biased argument" and they used it on Judge Lester. I will have to look for the proper citation later. As usual, I am late for work.

Perhaps after the trial has concluded and results in a conviction. If it is an acquittal, my guess is the "No harm, no foul" unwritten rule will come into play.

I think that was the long way of saying "Good question, IDK." Put me in the Daft Section!

Yep. As I said over at CTH, Much Ado About Nothing is a much better Shakespeare work from which BDLR should take inspiration:

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This whole case should be in the "Daft Section"... Daft is what it is.

But we should remember it is a Tragedy for George and his Family.

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Bernie's defense:

Your honor, I stonewalled discovery for months. Nothing serious happened. Yeah, I did finally cough up the color digital bloody nose photo, but the court permitted me to continue stonewalling disclosure of W8's address. Now the defense has changed up and is insisting on enforcing the rules. Your honor, I have a crappy case. As you have probably noticed, W8 is a disaster. As a former prosecutor, I know you understand. Convicting a guilty man is easy, but convicting an innocent man can be extremely difficult. I need your help, judge.