I think she will deny both motions... and any motion for continuance.

Most of us have fallen into the "Optimism Trap" before every hearing

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I find Sybrina ever more despicable as this plays out. Trayvon wasn't living with her at the time of his death. She doesn't seem to even know who her son was at the time of his death. She couldn't be bothered traveling to Sanford for I forget how long after his death. But she could by-God get all up in The DeeDee's grill for coaching sessions or whatever in God's name she was doing with/to that/those females. Despicable, money grubbing ... ugh.

Are you serious?!

She can certainly try, but at this point, the eventual 5th DCA smack-down will reach epic proportions.

From what I gather in reading case law regarding discovery violations, a Richardson hearing MUST be conducted at even an implied discovery violation by the State. The defense has presented a motion that forgoes mere implication, and provides instead outright accusation. By case law and procedure, Nelson's hands are now tied.

This motion may have been a broadside to the State, but it also was absolutely across the bow of the SS Nelson. There is zero doubt about how the appellate court will look upon her actions from this point forward.

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I hope you are right Chip.

I would welcome being wrong myself. I have been wrong every time so far... but that was taking an optimistic view.

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And she forced their hand. I think O'Mara was willing to remain a "gentleman" about the outrageous behavior of the state providing she threw him the occasional bone. She couldn't even manage that. She forced MO'M into backing her into a corner. Not too freaking bright, that one.

Please forgive me, but, I hope you are wrong, too.

Rumpole, that is so funny. You have got to share that pic with Ad Rem.

I did that pic at CTH already... I think she saw it

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I see RZ jr's tweets seem to be more important then DD's lies and the state's deceptive actions. The Trayvon supporters will never see past the original narrative, it's ingrained in their brains. Try as he might, RZ will never get through to them.

Chip, I do hope you are right, but this is not the first time that MOM has accused the prosecution of hiding or not presenting discovery in a timely manner, which if the Judge was following law, she would have called for a Richardson hearing, automatically. That it may take a Motion seeking Sanctions is a reflection on her.

OK - my first post here - hope it comes out right!

It still seems like something is missing - why would DeeDee think to lie about her age? That just feels like Crump's influence - well, an older adult's, anyway - maybe it was Sabrina's idea to keep people away from DeeDee by virtue of her "youth".

But even if it was truly all DeeDee's idea, supposedly then both Crump and BDLR thought she was 16 until August - that means that both of them interviewed her without ID??? And Julison Gutman - that means he interviewed a 16 y/o without ID and written parental permission??? How could everyone be so unprofessional? Something still feels fishy... ie, maybe they weren't really in the dark..

And - since everyone now agrees DeeDee is a liar, what's to prevent BDLR from saying that she is lying NOW, that she did NOT tell them in August that she had lied about her age and the hospitalization, that she just told them the day that they told the defense?

Welcome to RT, lorac

Your post was perfect

You raise interesting questions. We still do not have the full story on Dee Dee.... but lets hope that MoM and West do... or at least more than we do.


(BTW you need a nice avatar pic... plenty of "lorac women" pics around if you would like that... but anything you want)

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Well, just off the top of my head, there were either two DDs and the first one was 16 and Crump decided to use that info to keep everyone from checking up on her. Or, she was actually 18 and Crump just made it up because he didn't want anyone to find her, since she was lying for him.

Thank you for the welcome with the rose!

I'll look under instructions section for how to add avatar - I guess my wordpress one didn't follow me!




ha just playing with the little people in the smilies section

When you wrote Julison, did you mean Matt Gutman?

Oh, yes, I did mean Guttman - thanks for catching that!

Apparently DeeDee told Crump that she was a juvenile. First page.

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0313/mo ... covery.pdf

We know two things for sure:

1. At least one DD is a liar.
2. At least one DD is incredibly stupid.

Not quite she told BDLR she was 18, so BDLR knew before August that she was not a minor. She told BDLR that she had lied about the hospital because Sybrina was there on both occasions. When Crump found out she was not a minor, my guess is on April 2, during BDLR's interview. No wonder the Scheme Team stop talking about her, they knew she had lied earlier.