The case John Galt found fits into an argument I've been making at TalkLeft. By Florida law, the only privileges in Florida not to testify are those conferred by the state and U.S. constitutions, Florida statutes, and the rules of procedure approved by the Florida supreme court. The only work-product privilege for criminal discovery is set out in the Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure, and extends only to the defense and prosecution, not to third-party civil attorneys. (In contrast, privileges under the Federal rules of evidence can be based on common law as interpreted by the federal courts.)

Sundance makes his case eloquently and clearly as always.

I think this blog again highlights that SD is taking a wider approach.... the fight is not about GZ case alone.. it is about the BGI and wider issues.

I accept that and follow the discussion at CTH.

However, I am also interested in the GZ case and the exoneration of GZ in and of itself.

Not as a "prog" who accepts any of what is happening.... but as a PRAGMATIST who wants to see GZ exonerated as a first step....if an ONLY step, it would be disappointing.. but I could live with that.

Hence discussion here at RT may well be at a simpler (naive) level


I would like to think that exposure/resolution of the criminal case and the Scheme inexorably tangled in with it WILL expose some of the wider issues that SD refers to.

(Discussion of the Sundance blog.. is best directed to CTH)

However, I am also interested in the GZ case and the exoneration of GZ in and of itself. I would like to think that exposure/resolution of the criminal case and the Scheme inexorably tangled in with it WILL expose some of the wider issues that SD refers to.

So the Leatherheads really don't get the definition of hypocrisy do they? It is pretty amusing that a blog topic about how irrational George's supporters are turned into a huge political fight with many irrational comments. It was great to see people saying they were leaving the blog because their feelings got hurt.

One huge question is how these people across all of these sites have come to the same conclusions on several points in this case. Is it that the different sites are actually being controlled by one source? I really don't think that is it. I really think that what is happening here is that one person comes up with something and posts it on one of the sites then the people from the other sites buy into the story and spread it on their sites like it is the gospel. I think that is what separates our blogs from the others. We will actually scrutinize the information and decide if it has any merit prior to adding it to our mantra. They take anything that looks like it is pro-Trayvon and act like it is the smoking gun while minimizing anything that hurts their side. But we are the irrational ones!

I'm coming from the same place. I want to see George proven innocent on the human level just because he is innocent. And, if he is not cleared, it doesn't bode well for the rest of us and the rule of law.

Its not the judge in the black robe governing this case at all.

rz says:
March 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm

I sincerely appreciate everyone’s opinion.

However, there are several opinions I feel are somewhat inaccurate. I/we have been called ‘comfortably clueless’, ‘unable to make good decisions’, ‘naive’ and ‘socially liberal’. Heck, I’ve even been called a democrat !!!

I don’t believe ‘naive’ is descriptive at all. My wife worked in the Circuit Court for 28 years, I was a Magistrate for eight years. However, to be fair, I certainly did not anticipate the clearly justified use of force by George would take on the dimension it has.

Our primary focus is, and always has been, the exoneration of George. However, we are absolutely committed to seeing justice for all concerned. This certainly includes Angela Corey, Pam Bondi, Governor Scott, and the entire Scheme Team. I will not rest until that is accomplished. If individuals mistakenly perceive my patience and determination for a weakness, that’s their right.

Another item of concern are comments such as ‘Beasely, MOM and Z found some common ground, they all want to make some money’ and that the Zimmermans ‘should cease asking for money/support’. I can only comment on my objectives, and what I believe are George’s. Money has never been a motivation for any Zimmermans, ever. However, holding the media, and others, accountable for their egregious actions may only be accomplished by their paying for their actions. As stated previously, I hope, and anticipate, many will be held accountable for their harmful actions. To be clear, I have never ‘asked for money/support’.

George does need funds for his defense, that’s a given. My wife and I have never received any funds whatsoever, other than very limited donations to our website.

Again, I appreciate the comments of all. Please do not rush to judgement, We clearly have seen the results of individuals, with little actual knowledge of the facts, rushing to judge others.

rz

Now please understand, when I say ‘they don’t desire the deconstruction’, this includes EVERY aspect of the BGI including Benjamin Crump and the Scheme Team.

However, holding the media, and others, accountable for their egregious actions may only be accomplished by their paying for their actions. As stated previously, I hope, and anticipate, many will be held accountable for their harmful actions.

O'Mara files for sanctions against the State Attorney Office for discovery violations.