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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:45 pm 
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Dr. Samuels just said, "Psychology is the science of behavior". That is not true. Science is a 'tool' that leads one to a conclusion, whether correct or not. But he did admit that psychology can't prove anything true. He's basically saying his testimony is worthless and a waste of time. That's good.

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Dr. Samuels just said, "Psychology is the science of behavior". That is not true. Science is a 'tool' that leads one to a conclusion, whether correct or not. But he did admit that psychology can't prove anything true. He's basically saying his testimony is worthless and a waste of time. That's good.

Nice smiley work, rt :24

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:47 pm 
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Ha ha remote yes.

OR trying to get the TRUTH somehow out of these LIARS?? Can substitute the trauma of Travis trying HARD to dump her and actively SEEK a WIFE as one of his friends said with their example?

After age 30, Travis would no longer be in that Church Socials of young, mostly single people. THEN after age 30, he would have to go to the Church Socials of those OVER 30 - all who were mostly married. I also read his religion encourages early marriages.

Hmm ... I wonder why? (Because they must remain celibate?) :11

:HSG remote. Selective Amnesia. Selective Fog. Selective Gap. Take your choice jury!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:47 pm 
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You seem to have several issues with omitting or not having complete information, do you think you should be better prepared for trial? :13 .... :HSG


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:48 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
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Dr. Samuels just said, "Psychology is the science of behavior". That is not true. Science is a 'tool' that leads one to a conclusion, whether correct or not. But he did admit that psychology can't prove anything true. He's basically saying his testimony is worthless and a waste of time. That's good.

Nice smiley work, rt :24


..... :98 Thanks Rumpole. Given much time and instruction, I am a quick study. :45

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Do you always develop such a fond relationship with everyone you evaluate? :31

Do you feel you stepped over ethical boundaries in giving her the book?


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2:47 p.m. ET: One juror asked: Do you consider yourself impartial?

Samuels said he he always tries to remain impartial.

2:45 p.m. ET: One juror asked: Can acute stress occur during a planned murder?

Samuels said possible but not probable.

2:43 p.m. ET: One juror asked: Do you think the errors you made on your report about Arias were bad mistakes?

Samuels said he did make mistakes, but they do change his diagnosis.

2:41 p.m. ET: One juror asked: Don't you agree you did not spend enough time with Arias to diagnosis her?

Samuels said no not all, because after spending about 30 hours with a client the relationship changes, and it harder to make an accurate evaluation.


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Do you always develop a fond relationship with clients? What about the gift book? Samuels does not think he crossed boundaries.

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A spate of questions challenging Samuels' sloppiness in his report and in not retesting Arias for PTSD. Samuels says it does not change it

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Can acute stress occur is someone planned to kill? Martinez wants yes or no. Samuels says less likely.

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Stealth question: Arias remembered cleaning up the scene and deleting photos. Well, no, neither she nor Samuels said that.


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I wondered if we would get through an entire day of the Arias trial without hearing the words "anal sex." Guess not.

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It seems these are questions that came out of the cross examination. They are edgier.

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Is Arias assertive? Samuels says she was unable to say no to Alexander.


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"Dr. Samuels, are you saying that ALL people who experience PSTD and any of these other psycho disorders are NOT GUILTY?"

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2:50 p.m. ET: One juror asked: Can medication cause amnesia?

Samuels said yes it can, but what Arias suffers from is a different kind of amnesia.

2:49 p.m. ET: One juror asked: Do you think you stepped over an ethical line when giving Arias a self-help book?

Samuels said there is no ethical rule preventing him from giving Arias a book.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:56 pm 
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These questions are really getting better and better! But I've got to admit, the guy is a smooth, articulate talker!


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I have got a BSc in Psychology.........

Seems to me that after 35 years he has dropped the "c"

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More jury questions are now in the basket!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:00 pm 
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Noon Recess back at 1:25Arizona, 4:25 EDT


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Lunch... report back 1:25

Counsel to the bench

DRINK!!! :63

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2:59 p.m. ET: One juror question: Why do you think Arias had low self esteem during her relationship with Alexander?

Samuels said he based this opinion on things she told him and her journals.

2:57 p.m. ET: Samuels said he initially diagnosis for Arias included multiple personality disorder, but after he explored the case more it took him in another direction.


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What are the guidelines for Samuels when he thinks someone is suicidal? Contact the people closest to her. But she had no actual plan.

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A question trying to catch Samuels on his statement that made-up stories are told in a consistent manner and that Arias has been consistent


Hoping you didn't catch that 4th :63 opportunity , Rumpole! I can't take anymore!! :N11


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Travis Alexander's brother-in-law just told me that the blue ribbons the family is wearing today signify "Justice for Travis."

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There are more questions to go after lunch. #Arias

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Arias tolerated abusive behavior that most women would not. Self esteem issue. lunch break.


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