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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:52 pm 
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Transient Global Amnesia vs Dissociative Amnesia - Martinez asking why the former was brought up when he thinks she has the latter.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:54 pm 
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Joni - what frustrates me is that they are ad nauseam discussing something (dissociative amnesia) that happened AFTER the slaughter. So what does this have to do with the premeditation and the killing? Nothing!


:HSG - Jodi just rolled her eyes at Martinez arguing with Samuels!!


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Samuels keeps saying such amnesia would be "likely," but Martinez wants a definitive yes or no answer.


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Martinez was reading from Arias' journal; Samuels stops him when he skips a line. Then Samuels reads.

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Martinez and Samuels are locked in a theoretical that Martinez made up about amnesia. He wants Samuels to say every example is identical.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:09 pm 
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I wonder how much he charges as his fee to be an expert? i think the State should seek a refund. He is an incompetent and shonky Psychologist.. and NOT even prepared as far as notes go etc. Even as an Impersonator of a psychologist... he should have the nonsense at his finger tips.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:13 pm 
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Did he not know he was coming to court to give evidence on this stuff?


As Judge Judy would say... "Where did he think he was going today... to a Barn Dance?" :31

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5:18 p.m. ET: The attorneys are now at a sidebar.

5:16 p.m. ET: Martinez is now walking Samuels through the symptoms Arias suffered from that made him diagnosis her with PTSD.

5:13 p.m. ET: The attorneys are at a sidebar with the judge.

5:11 p.m. ET: Samuels is still looking through his notes.

5:05 p.m. ET: Samuels is now looking through his materials to find his notes about the January 24, 2008 entry and the masturbation incident.

5:04 p.m. ET: Martinez is now asking Samuels about Arias' journal entry from January 24, 2008 that was written allegedly just days after Arias caught Alexander masturbating to an image of a little boy.

In the entry Arias writes, "I haven't written because there has been nothing noteworthy to report."

The attorneys are now at a sidebar with the judge.

4:59 p.m. ET: Samuels is reading an entry from Arias' journal where she writes about Alexander cheating on her.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:17 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
Did he not know he was coming to court to give evidence on this stuff?


As Judge Judy would say... "Where did he think he was going today... to a Barn Dance?" :31

I liked your "shonky" - :HSG

I just can't bash this guy because he is paid to defend the indefensible. I suppose I look at him and other paid shills as the necessary evils of our society.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:19 pm 
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Watching Samuels trying to find his notes reminds me of recurring nightmares of trying and failing to repack an overfilled suitcase.


Michael Kiefer michaelbkiefer I would have asked what date in his log that page came out of.

michaelbkiefer I don't know how JM is keeping this all straight when Dr. Samuels is having a pre-senior/senior MOMENT!

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Willmott objects to Martinez not letting Samuels review his notes; Martinez objects to Willmott speaking out. Wait for it... sidebar!


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Maybe we should have a drinking game for the word: SIDEBAR! :72


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:24 pm 
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Sounds like a great way to get drunk real quick :95

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DRINK!!! :63

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Whoa - talk about quick - that's 2 sidebars within one minute. Ridic!




5:25 p.m. ET: The attorneys are at a sidebar with the judge.

5:24 p.m. ET: Martinez is entering the guidelines for a PTSD diagnosis into evidence.

5:23 p.m. ET: Samuels said he had not written an addendum for one symptom he believed Arias was suffering from, and now the attorneys are at a sidebar.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:35 pm 
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$250 dollars an hour!!

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Rumpole wrote:
$250 dollars an hour!!

Waste. A huge waste.


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Now being questioned by Wilmott:
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Samuels goes through the listed factors, amnesia, feeling of detachment, restricted range of affect, sense of foreshortened future, etc.


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Martinez' walk-off line gets Samuels to admit he doesn't list enough factors for a ptsd diagnosis. "I have nothing more." On to redirect.

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Samuels gets paid $250/hour. Martinez suggests he's overpaid for someone who makes so many errors.


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5:39 p.m. ET: Defense attorney Willmott is now asking Samuels to walk through all of the criteria for PTSD he found present in Arias, and he found Arias was suffering more than three symptoms.


5:38 p.m. ET: Martinez pointed out Samuels' report only mentions two criteria for PTSD, but the guidelines require three criteria. Samuels said it was a typographical error. Martinez then asked Samuels how much he makes an hour, and he responded that he makes $250.00 an hour. Martinez asked how he could he make that kind of mistake if he makes $250.00 an hour. Samuels said it was a mistake, and Martinez then finished his questioning of Samuels.

“Isn’t it true that – it’s a counting kind of thing – three are required to be found in order for there to be PTSD, correct?” asked Martinez.

“That’s correct,” said Samuels.

“You only listed two, right?” asked Martinez.

“That was a typographical issue –“ said Samuels before being cut off.

“Is that yes or no?” asked Martinez.

“Yes, it is,” responded Samuels.

“Sir, with regard to this, you’re getting paid. How much are you getting paid per hour?” asked Martinez.

“I get paid per hour, $250,” said Samuels.

“And for $250 an hour you’re saying that you weren’t paying enough attention to put whatever else was needed under C?” asked Martinez.

“I reviewed the report numerous times and I must admit I missed it,” said Samuels.



5:34 p.m. ET: Martinez is now showing Samuels his own report that summarizes his PTSD diagnosis.

5:31 p.m. ET: Samuels is now reading the criteria for diagnosing someone with PTSD. Martinez asked how many symptoms did he observe in Arias, and he didn't agree with Samuels answer. The attorneys are now at a sidebar with the judge.


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LOL

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Willmott is doing redirect. At least the shouting has stopped for a moment.


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C group... D group?

I would put Jodi on the "Group W Bench" noted by Arlo Guthrie


Quote:
........"Kid, I want
you to go and sit down on that bench that says Group W .... NOW kid!!"

And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's
where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after
committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me!

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